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Gamerace on 26 August 2008

Should PS4 be more powerful? - Yes. Of course.

Should they aim to be the most powerful console out? - No. The most powerful is the most expensive and never has the most powerful console won a generation. Better to sacrifice some power to be closer to mass market price. The system that sells the most in the first year or two has all the 3rd party support and the other more powerful system will be stuck with ports. That's why MS went for an early start instead of trying to out muscle Sony.



 

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Willem on 26 August 2008

Well, I imagine the following is not impossible:
2 Cells for multi-purpose processing + 2 Cells for Graphical purposes with specially designed SPE's.
4 Gig of RDRam, 500GB HD, new wireless broadband communications technology and a faster BR-drive with a 200 GB capacity, all in a nice designed model for only $400 ( at introduction ).
Depending on the production-costs of the Cells they might use 3 + 3, but I don't think they will exceed an introduction price of $400.
And they will focus more on games, entertainment, accessibility, compatibility and connectivity between the PS#, NAS, PSP, Walkman, Phones, Camera's etc...



Cypher1980 on 26 August 2008
colonelstubbs said:
Has any console ever launched with a superb line up of games? The PS3, 360, PS2 didnt....so what? No damage done.

They arent going to dumb down the PS3. Why should they?

I bet if the PS4 was dumbed down to the level of the wii (in terms of processing ppower) and the wii2 upgraded to PS3 capabilities the wii2 would still win.

Sont might as well give it their all

 

The N64 launched with a pretty good line up (Mario 64, Pilotwings 64). It should always be quality over quantity

Also the Dreamcast launch line up wasnt bad, ditto for the Atari 2600 in the old times.



Doktor85 on 26 August 2008

And games will be made with these tools.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7581162.stm



redspear on 26 August 2008
playnext3 said:
sorry i cant agree with you cuz when the ps2 was released the graphiks was amazing and i said the same thingmthe ps4 should be more powerfull than the ps3

 

 The Dreamcast games looked better than the PS2 launch games. Of course with the Dreamcast all but dead and improvement from Devs that didn't last long and PS2 games improved through the generation.

 

That siad the PS2 was weaker than the GC and XBOX and the PS1 was weaker than the Saturn and N64(though additional memory allowed for some advantages over the 64). Point being the PS series has never before been bout being the most graphically powerful but instead most accesible something the flubbed this gen and something Nintendo took to a whole other extreme.

 

The PS4 will most likely be announced in 2 years released in 3 years and support for the PS3 will most like die out in 4 years from now.

The Wii succesor will most like be anounced in 3 years released in 4 and support for the wii will most likely die out in 6 years.

 

I suspect the PS4 will have a significant upgrade to graphics and a hybrid Dualshock 2/2 controller or something that breaks in half with motion sensitivity and dual IR aiming as well as the full compliment of todays dual shock buttons.

 

One reason for the graphical "weakness" of the Wii is the size of the system. If Sony and MS were to ignore that feature and make a larger system they may be able to make a relatively cheap graphical powerhouse for under 400.



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Darc Requiem on 26 August 2008
CGI-Quality said:
FinalEvangelion said:
They really need to keep the $400 price ceiling in mind when releasing the next console. Maybe even try to get it out in the same time frame or before the Xbox 720. Much of the R&D of the PS3 can be transferred to the PS4 as well. I can definitely see Blu-ray being used again with a faster drive. I hope they use a symmetrical architecture, unlike the Cell, and a better graphics chip. However, devs may want them to continue using the Cell since they spent so much resources figuring it out.

I want to see a solid 1080p/60fps as a standard next time around.

1080p/60fps as a standard now we're talking

 

I wouldn't count on it. Developers have been promising 60fp for a couple generations now. So the likely hood of having both 1080p and 60fps as the standard is not very good.



evo03 on 26 August 2008

The system can be as powerful as they want it to be it just needs to be reasonably priced and most of all easy to program for. Sony didn't learn from the mistake they made with the PS2 and launched with a hard to learn architecture resulting in delays and poorly reviewed games. While it worked out with the PS2 the PS3 did not have a year headstart.



totalwar23 on 26 August 2008
CGI-Quality said:
rocketpig said:
Obliterator1700 said:
PS3 will not be a weak system in 2012...It constantly gets firmware updates. Maybe we might never see a ps4? Who knows...

I never realized that more RAM could be installed via firmware.

PS3, winning the battle through firmware!

...

Wait. You realize that both the Wii and 360 also update their firmware on a continual basis, right?

 

I didn't know FW could add RAM either however- the 360 and Wii updates are no where near as frequent as the PS3 and beyond that the 360 updates software and PS3 firmware they are in fact different the PS3 hardware to an extent is being updated with firmware upgrades

LOL!!!

You have got to be a joke poster and merely screwing around. I refuse to take this comment seriously.

 



S.T.A.G.E. on 26 August 2008
CGI-Quality said:

As a Sony loyalist - (not a fanboy) I personally would like to see Sony put out a far more powerful machine than the PS3 next gen but would it be worth it? I think as a launch 60GB PS3 owner that the PS3 was well worth all $641 (including tax) that I paid for it on Nov 17, 2006 but I also realize that if they were to take that same route next gen they would at least need some heftier launch titles to go along with that technology. PS3's biggest launch problem imo was the lack of software even though the competition suffered the same fate. Howerver Sony had that high price point of $599.99 that the public also had to contend with and thus the PS3 intially got a bad rep out of the box which also explains less 3rd party support as the competition hence - less sales. Things are now looking up for Sony big time but I think next gen they should take a less costly route with the PS4 just upgrading the PS3's tech minimally and getting some truly powerful exclusives out of the box with a console (though as I said I think the PS3 was well worth the $599.99 price tag) that doesnt exceed $449.99 at launch - Your thoughts?

 

 A console should never break the $300-399 from launch mark if they expect maximum results. If you want mimimal results raise the price up to $600. I knew you were a Sony loyalist, I just chose not to confront you. At least you admitted it here.



GodofWine on 26 August 2008

I think due to the (quickly) rising cost of developing games that use the full power of either HD console already, that we will only see a small bump in total performance (RAM / processing speed) with very little change to general architecture or programming needs in the next gen.

20-70 million or more to develop a 'blockbuster'game that might sell well, or bomb for either console is quite a daunting investment for a dev. to make.

And lets face it, games like Gears / KZ2 / Heavy Rain (speculation) / etc look fantastic, not too much further to push non-CGI graphics.



 

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