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ZenfoldorVGI on 25 August 2008
Torillian said:
@Zen
I understand that history dictates it, I'm just wondering what the reasoning is the reviewers give for marking it down. Since it seems they always mark this series down to some degree. I only comment because Disgaea has a fairly obvious reason to get the treatment it does, I was curious what reason reviewers use to do the same to Tales games (if there is one).

On the which is more niche idea, I would just see which had less sales, but I understand that you could think they are similar within their respective genres.

 

Yes, the reasons are the graphics are mediocre for the 360, the gameplay is very similar(the same with different animations) to past itterations, and the very little has been significantly upgraded besides the characters, amount of VA, and graphics. However, like past itterations, the gameplay is fun, and fast paced, and the characters rank amongst some of the most fleshed out and explored in the genre.

The game is also full of humor, in these skits, something the fantastic FFXII was missing entirely.

Also, the game is still anime based, which usually doesn't bode well with cynical reviewers.



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ZenfoldorVGI on 25 August 2008
ItsaMii said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:
Riachu said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:
...and just to be clear, I believe Eurogamer, and Edge magazine will both consign to giving Disgaea 3 and Tales of Vesperia 6/10s.

They gave MGS4 8/10s....6/10 is what you should expect.

Eurogamer and Edge base their scores on innovation, right?

 

 

So they say. Frankly, I'm not a fan. It seems like they are trying to change the way games are made with their reviews, punishing games that stick to the same old stuff, but better. It's ideological reviewing, as the reviews aren't based on fun, but rather, "Does your game help progress the industry."

I say bullshit considering Halo 3 and GTA 4 scores.

 

I completely agree. It doesn't help though that Halo 3 just won most innovative game, at what was called the "Edge awards" or something similar. I'm not sure if it's related to the magazine, but giving Halo 3 "most innovative game" is bullcrap, and shows the industries bias towards hype.

I played Halo 3. The single player was mediocre, the online was fun, but not much better than Halo 2.

 



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ZenfoldorVGI on 25 August 2008

@itsamii

Here it is:

Halo 3 Scoops Edge Award for Interactive Innovation

http://www.edge-online.com/news/halo-3-scoops-edge-award-interactive-innovation

It beat portal...



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Bitmap Frogs on 25 August 2008
Riachu said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:
...and just to be clear, I believe Eurogamer, and Edge magazine will both consign to giving Disgaea 3 and Tales of Vesperia 6/10s.

They gave MGS4 8/10s....6/10 is what you should expect.

Eurogamer and Edge base their scores on innovation, right?

 

 

You do have to remember their hidden review modifiers:

British-made game +1

JRPG -2





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colonelstubbs on 25 August 2008

Looking at IGNs review, 8.2 may be a little lower than it deserved. They knocked points off for a lack of originality and a linear design....what did they expect from a JRPG?



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Shadowblind on 25 August 2008
Onyxmeth said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:

Tales fans will be interested to know that all the skits are voiced. Which is amazing considering their frequency.

I have plans on playing this game in the future, but this feature right here is turning me off big time from wanting to sit through another 70+ hours Tales game, no matter how great the gameplay is. The voice acting in the demo I found atocious. Thank god the skits are optional.

 

Check "sound" in the reviews. They have only praised it.

 



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dabaus513 on 25 August 2008

I just got Lost odyssey and am liking it very much so far, is it possible i would like this game? I like Jrpgs where i can level up my characters, learn new spells and skills as they level up, upgrade weapons, and have a somewhat serious plot. Is it an action rpg or turn based. Sorry, i have never played a tales game. Thanks for helping.



 

 

 

Onyxmeth on 25 August 2008
Soriku said:
Onyxmeth said:
Words Of Wisdom said:
Onyxmeth said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:

Tales fans will be interested to know that all the skits are voiced. Which is amazing considering their frequency.

I have plans on playing this game in the future, but this feature right here is turning me off big time from wanting to sit through another 70+ hours Tales game, no matter how great the gameplay is. The voice acting in the demo I found atocious. Thank god the skits are optional.

 

Optional only if you don't want the Mr.Fluffy-Cat-Eater-Steak-Moose title that requires you watch 4 skits in various places throughout the world before certain events and after others happen.

I have no interest in those titles anymore. When I realised you were basically always powerful enough to go straight through the game without breaking a grind sweat, I stopped bothering with recipes, titles and I rode the animal all throughout the overworld. As long as you fight inside dungeons and get better weapons, it's a cakewalk. I'm talking about Symphonia by the way. I haven't played the others to compare, but I hear it's very similiar.

 

 

ToS isn't the hardest. Play Tales of Eternia (Destiny II in US). A lot different.

That's ok. It's probably cheaper just to buy Vesperia new than buy Destiny 2 used. Plus, I'm not saying Symphonia was a bad game. I love the basic combat. I just feel the extra features the series is known for are unnecessary.

@Zen-I mentioned never needing to grind in the game, so that would be why I felt recipes were not important. Was there something to accomplish with a powerful team built from grinding? I managed to finish with Lloyd in the 50s and the rest of my starters in the 30s and still beat Ygddrassil on my first run. Also the same effect could be had in battles by buying MP potions instead of food for recipes and you can use a healer on your team in the background to just continuously heal. When they get low, pop them with a potion and they're good to go. Same effect, less hassle.

 



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Riachu on 25 August 2008
colonelstubbs said:
Looking at IGNs review, 8.2 may be a little lower than it deserved. They knocked points off for a lack of originality and a linear design....what did they expect from a JRPG?

IGN never said anything about lack of orginality(unless you are referring to the story not breaking any new grounds thing) and they said that ToV actually has plenty of times where you can go to places other than where the main plot tells you to.

And about the complaint they had about the skits.  Newflash for them, those skits are no more dated than LO's Thousand Dreams

 



 

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ZenfoldorVGI on 25 August 2008
Bitmap Frogs said:
Riachu said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:
...and just to be clear, I believe Eurogamer, and Edge magazine will both consign to giving Disgaea 3 and Tales of Vesperia 6/10s.

They gave MGS4 8/10s....6/10 is what you should expect.

Eurogamer and Edge base their scores on innovation, right?

 

 

You do have to remember their hidden review modifiers:

British-made game +1

JRPG -2

LMAO. Good one bro.

 



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.