Nobody criticized Wii Music? Now that's a new one! Are you keen on rewriting history no matter what?

FYI, Wii Music was one of the main reason "hardcore" criticized Nintendo's E3. Seems like it's also one of the main reason why you and the hardcore still have a strong belief that E3 was an embarassment for Nintendo.

IIRC, E3 of 2007 was also thought as an embarassment for Nintendo by the same kind of people.

Wii Music or Wii Fit are not an embarassment at all actually, to normal people that is.

3rd parties didn't save Nintendo of anything. Soon, you'll start telling us that the Wii had big success at start thanks to 3rd party. There are already people saying that for the DS. The DS, like the Wii, was made a success by Nintendo alone. Yes it's sad and is even more amazing, but alas it's the truth.

If anything, 3rd parties have started saving themselves from their war of attrition on Nintendo, which instead of killing Nintendo, was killing themselves. I think it's already too late for some of them, but who knows?

Has a supporter of real HD gaming I'm sad to recognize that NINTENDO completly dominates the market, in both home and portable consoles.

They are the ones that make more money per console, they are the ones that sell more total games, and believe it or not, they are the ones that invest less money (that's the real problem for me).

NINTENDO it's a real case study, they are filling up with money.

Anyway, they are getting 3rd party support and will be getting it in the future, it's cheaper to develop to the Wii and it's easy to sell games. Or do you think developers are stupid?

As for me, almost 100% of Wii games don't interest me, the only one it's MadWorld, but I can live without that game.

Actually, the Wii music bashing only lasted 3 days. The Ubisoft bashing could go on FOREVER even with good games Ubi comes out with good games like Shaun White and Petz Dogs playground. So what if its casual Petz dogs just looking at the graphics was actually a good game and yet everyone bashes it. Just look at the comments on gametrailers. And yet no one bashes Wii Music its BS. Sorry, but Wii gamers are just biased about Nintendo right now THEY CANT DO NO WRONG...

This.

Wii Music is just the Wii Fit of 2008. The reaction is almost exactly the same - everyone hated it, bashed it to hell, claimed Nintendo was abandoning so and so, destroying the industry, etc. Most people came around and/or stopped bashing, although there is a small, pathetic bunch of dedicated people that still declare Wii Fit to be their mortal enemy and still spend hours writing up articles just to discredit it.

Wii Music is pretty much in the same boat, except that music games are much more accepted and this isn't quite as radical an approach to a game as Wii Fit. I've already seen the dedicated anti-Wii Music group say their peace (which suspiciously sounds like all the anti-Guitar Hero arguments), and their arguments are practically non-existent. The majority of them complain that the game 'looks stupid' (where have we heard that before) and mostly criticizes what I find to be the most intriguing thing about the game - there are no music peripherals, it's all done with the Wiimote. Ironically the most vocal haters are the same people that would be bawling their eyes out if the game was packed with peripherals...

That said I'm pretty sure yushire is a concern troll now, his replies have gone into downright delusional territory. He's gone from slamming all 3rd parties to now claiming that they 'saved' the Wii. No one in their right mind would base this on the fact that one Ubisoft petzzzzz game doesn't look like complete ass. I have no doubt in my mind that his posts are meant to get a rise out of the Nintendo crowd, he just pulls his resources from bandwagons. A lot of fools feel "betrayed" by Nintendo from E3, they have little to no presence at Leipzig and the same will apply to TGS, so he's using the backlash to now put some of the most shameless Wii 3rd party developers up on a ridiculous pedestal.

It's getting pretty transparent now

I think 3rd Party Support have arrived, there are many good games in prospect in next few months coming out, that will be successful on the console. Developers finally understood that they can make money easier on the leading console , then spending loads on development on the HD consoles.

People are complaining about E3 for Nintendo, but overall E3 and months after are very good for the console, because of the third party games coming.

@claude----> Actually, if you seen my earlier posts, Im defending Ubi after the boycott bandwagon, I even have a thread about it. Im defending them again, as you can see, most of my posts are for Ubi. Just to clarify you there...

Well, no, because Handheld games take less time to develop so there was less lag between seeing that the market winner was the DS and having teams that had just completed PSP games switch to DS.

With home consoles games take longer to finish so even after it was clear that the Wii was gonna be #1 there was so much effort put in so many HD games that it made more sense to see them to completion before having some of the teams doing them switching to the Wii.

Another reason is marketshare, as the DS and PSP launched at similar dates (same in Japan, 6 months difference in US IIRC) there was not an already established base of PSP owners for the DS to battle against like the Wii had to do with the 360. Had the Wii launched at the same time as the 360 there would have been a much faster switch.

 It doesn't matter. Nintendo haters will still whine. Even after the wii start getting more games. There will still be some one saying it will slow down. Or Sony domination starts.