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halogamer1989 said:
So is Obama. At least McCain gets his houses from people who don't work for the mafia, a la Tony Rezko.

His one house you mean?

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/americandebate/The_window_into_McCains_character.html

So it's no surprise that the McCain camp tried to change the subject yesterday by invoking Obama's past ties to convicted political fundraiser Tony Rezko, who helped Obama buy his (only) house. The Obama-Rezko connection (which I detailed nearly six months ago) is fair game for McCain. The problem, however, is that the Rezko details - he's heading to jail for state kickback crimes that have nothing to do with Obama - can't be easily reduced to bumper-sticker shorthand.

By contrast, McCain's cluelessness about his own luxury is a gift one-liner for a Democratic campaign that has spent most of August wilting in the heat. The only question is whether Obama and surrogates can affix it to McCain with a branding iron.

 



We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

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^That's right. Give McCain a break though. Like you said he is almost 72.



halogamer1989 said:
^That's right. Give McCain a break though. Like you said he is almost 72.

Its cool, no one is perfect.  I like McCain about 100 times better than I like Bush, and I wouldn't have a problem with him as leader of our country, but my opinion of him has changed a little after he started running an extremely negative campaign, something I thought he was above, and which he repeatedly said he hates about politics, not to mention that Karl Rove pulled one of the biggest slander campaigns against him during the 2000 primaries.  I figured that would change his attitude towards negative campaigning.

I do think he is too old for the job though.  Look at how much any president has aged from the stress in office, and it is very dramatic.  It is a pretty stressful job, and I doubt he could physically or mentally handle two terms.

That being said this will look like egg in the face to a lot of people who remember McCain's claims that Obama is an elitist.  If voters hate one thing, it is a hypocrite.

 



We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

McCain is fine, Obama is the one with the house problem. Obama got his house with the help of convicted felon Tony Rezko. Go to wikipedia and search Tony Rezko because the story is to long and complicated for me to explain here.
Everybody in Illinois knows about Tony Rezko.



luinil said:
Lolcislaw said:

Plus whats wrong with owning loads of properties?

 

Nothing. That is a big problem for this argument. Obama is criticizing a man for owning too much stuff. So when should we start regulating how many houses a person can own? It is a principle element of freedom to own property. Criticizing the ownership of property (in a non-monopolistic setting) is foolish. Obama tippied his hand, he wants to tax everybody into equality, like a Communist Government tries to. Only problem with that is somebody is always above others. It is either due to Political Favors/Connections or Hard Work. I prefer Hard Work.

/rant

Wait, so Obama responds to the Republican's criticism of Elitism by pointing out that their candidate owns 7 or more houses, and that exposes him as a communist?

 

I think you're reading a bit too far in to this.

 



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The Ghost of RubangB said:
"Here's ONE house American can't afford to let John McCain move into."

Hahaha, that gave me some lulz.

I immediately had a vision of McCain as some house-gobbling monster, buying every house across America until he got to the White House.

Could make a cool WiiWare game.

 

I know I would buy it.



stof said:
luinil said:

 

Nothing. That is a big problem for this argument. Obama is criticizing a man for owning too much stuff. So when should we start regulating how many houses a person can own? It is a principle element of freedom to own property. Criticizing the ownership of property (in a non-monopolistic setting) is foolish. Obama tippied his hand, he wants to tax everybody into equality, like a Communist Government tries to. Only problem with that is somebody is always above others. It is either due to Political Favors/Connections or Hard Work. I prefer Hard Work.

/rant

Wait, so Obama responds to the Republican's criticism of Elitism by pointing out that their candidate owns 7 or more houses, and that exposes him as a communist?

 

I think you're reading a bit too far in to this.

 

I'm with you stof.  I don't understand the logic of these internet people sometimes...

 



We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

akuma587 said:

I'm with you stof.  I don't understand the logic of these internet people sometimes...

 

 

See where you mistake is? Those words just shouldn't be in the same sentence.