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@Final Evangelion: Well, we still are waiting for the PS3:s savior - sub Wii pricing. And the games library.

The thing is, that Wii being as dominant as it is, the third party support will flock (as they are doing) to Wii, when it's library eventually will satisfy basically anyone. If it doesn't, then in the end we are just talking about fanboyism. I think everyone agrees that PS2 had awesome library, but let me marginalize it; PS2:s games library was shit because it didn't have Nintendos first party titles.
Of course it's about everyones personal preference which library the person sees more valuable for him/herself, which of course is ok, but in general the system with most games tends to have best library objectively speaking.



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Eikä Japanisti.

Vaan pannaan jalalla koreasti.

 

Nintendo games sell only on Nintendo system.

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Skeeuk said:
Darc Requiem said:
I hate to break it to you buddy, but the Wii is still crushing the PS3 in all three major markets.

 

the fact that wii is selling more than ps3 and 360, does not make the console better, in fact it does nothing for the gamer what soever.

ps3 games and 360 games are light years ahead of wii games.

Your first sentence = OK.

Your second sentence = Fail.

 

Not because I think Wii games are light years ahead of HD games but because games are not ahead of each other.  Entertainment is universal regardles of the texture quality of the rendering, the book cover, the 35mm film, etc...

 



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Viper1 said:
blazinhead89 said:
^quality is better than quantity, and dont you dare count those ps2 ports at the beggining of 360 lifespan

Hey, bud.  That's Nintendo's Gamecube trademark.  You can't use it.

 


Hey I enjoyed the Gamecube a lot, It was a really good system, I just enjoyed PS2 more because of their 1st&2nd party games

bdbdbd said:
@Final Evangelion: Well, we still are waiting for the PS3:s savior - sub Wii pricing. And the games library.

The thing is, that Wii being as dominant as it is, the third party support will flock (as they are doing) to Wii, when it's library eventually will satisfy basically anyone. If it doesn't, then in the end we are just talking about fanboyism. I think everyone agrees that PS2 had awesome library, but let me marginalize it; PS2:s games library was shit because it didn't have Nintendos first party titles.
Of course it's about everyones personal preference which library the person sees more valuable for him/herself, which of course is ok, but in general the system with most games tends to have best library objectively speaking.

 

I agree with this.  I was mainly responding with my opinion to all the people coming into this thread and saying that I should love the Wii and hate the PS because the Wii is popular.  You are right, maybe there will be more third party support that will get me to want to re-buy the Wii.  Heck, probably a Zelda game that is exclusive to the Wii will convince me to get the console again.  Right now and indefinitely, I just don't see much that will convince me.  Yes, it is my opinion. 

 

"One man's trash is another man's treasure."  And vice versa.  If I really cared about the console manufacturer and not the offerings I would have a Wii and a PS3, and would forget about the 360, because MS is not a company I'm particularly fond of.



"Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY."  --Hermann Goering, leading Nazi party member, at the Nuremberg War Crime Trials 

 

Conservatives:  Pushing for a small enough government to be a guest in your living room, or even better - your uterus.

 

Soriku said:

@Final

OK dude. Pick something from this upcoming games list:

  • Mad World
  • World of Goo
  • GH w/DLC
  • Rock Band w/DLC
  • Spiderman Web of Shadows
  • 007: Quantum of Solace
  • Dokapon Kingdom
  • Facebreaker K.O. Party
  • Sam and Max
  • Samba de Amigo
  • Tetris Party
  • Shaun White (?)
  • 2XSNC Compilations
  • Spyro, Crash, etc.
  • Animales de Muerto
  • Swords and Soldiers
  • Megaman 9 (Lead console)
  • The Conduit
  • Call of Duty:World at War
  • Overlord Dark Legends
  • Cursed Mountains
  • Deadly Creatures
  • de Blob
  • Dead Rising
  • Spyborgs
  • Monster Hunter 3
  • Mushroom Men
  • Red Steel 2
  • Force Unleashed
  • Clone Wars
  • Tenchu 4
  • Castlevania Judgement
  • Fragile
  • Arc Rise Fantasia
  • Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World
  • Kings Story
  • Fatal Frame
  • Day of Crisis (first party)
  • FFCC: The Crystal Bearers
  • House of Dead: Overkill
  • Kore
  • Rygar: The Battle of Argus
  • Sonic Unleashed
  • New Mothership Tales
  • The Sky Crawlers
  • Rune Factory Frontier
  • Pro Evo 09
  • Sonic & the Black Knight
  • Oboro Muramasa Youtoden
  • Spore
  • Suda/Mikami Project
  • Monster Lab
  • SPRay
  • Renegade Kid game
  • Marvel Ultimate Alliance II
  • Harvest Moon
  • Homestar Runner
  • Lost Winds 2
  • Tatsunoko vs. Capcom
  • ... etc ...

    Surely there's NOTHING yo want.

 

 

Alot of them are future games and some are multi-plat.  Arc Rise Fantasia looks very interesting.  I'm not saying I never will get a Wii.  Right now, there isn't enough for me to be interested.  Heck, I probably will get a Wii eventually.

 

Around here, it seems if you say anything positive about the PS3 or own a Sony console, you get the branding of a Sony fanboy.



"Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY."  --Hermann Goering, leading Nazi party member, at the Nuremberg War Crime Trials 

 

Conservatives:  Pushing for a small enough government to be a guest in your living room, or even better - your uterus.

 

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^no but if you pair it with something negative towards another machine...well you get the idea



 

I disagree with the OP's assertion that PS3 is doing well.

Sony fixed their deadly flaws and will survive. When the PS3 came out, it was looking like the Sega Saturn. Now its looking like more of a cross between N64, Genesis and Xbox.

Price is still a problem though. $400 is too much for a console- the most I would ever pay is $300. Despite have alot of great games, I only bought a 360 when it went down to $300. Now that I have 4 systems, Ps3 has very little value to me, as I have more games available to buy than I can play or afford. As the Ps3's price continues to remain high, my situation will become true for more and more people.

Xbox 360's sales have been crimped by price, though a $200 arcade this fall would break the price barrier and help sales- in America. Wii is $50-$100 overpriced, but due to extreme popularity the Wii is basically immune to the price barrier at this time. Due to BD, PS3 may be able to sell at a relatively risk pace once it reaches $300. By the time PS3 reaches $200, it will be too late- the Wii will be the clear winner, and Xbox 3 and Wii 2 will be rolling out, forcing Sony to come out with PS4 or watch their brand mane die. The ten year plan won't work.

Sony had a terrible first year, but was kept afloat due to brand name. At this point the brand name has been tarnished, but Playstation should survive, as it has the advantage of Blu Ray, brand name, and free online over Xbox 360. All Xbox has is (at this point) is better exclusives.

Survival does not equate to success. As the former market leader, Sony's 2 main goals should have been profitability and market share retention. PS3 may or may not break even, thus failing to be profitable. A loss is a dismal failure unless market share is increased. For this reason the original Xbox may or may not be considered a failure, as it increased the market share for the formerly non existant Xbox brand. Sony, on the other hand, has lost a massive amount of market share. Adding dismal loses to a dramatic downturn in market share can in no way equate to success. While PS3 is arguably a good product, it is a failure. I really like the Sega Saturn, but that does not make it a success.



That is great news for all ps3 owners......But why you serve us crow for....You should be happy that your console of choice solve most of the problem that put ps3 in the last place.

Imagine what will happen if the wii would solve storage problems,shovelware, support of the western market developers and a good online service.That would be a great feat,what then should all nintendo fans do?Serve a flock of sheaps for slauter in the name of satan???

For crying out loud chill out enjoy your console and stop trying to force your opinion that the ps3 is the best console ever created.



KZ2 said:

Blu-Ray won the format war and has proved to be a necessity in gaming.

Yeah, except if you ignore the history of gaming before Blu-Ray.  The bar has been lowered once again.

 



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Neos said:
Sony still lost. They aren't marketleader and won't be anymore this gen.

they failed whatever way you put it.

 

Dumb, dumb, dumb response.  Because the Wii came along, which has nothing to do with Sony, the PS3 is a failure.  Businesses are successful to the extent they make money.  It looks like PS3 will make money this gen, though it hasn't hit the black yet.  Blu-ray will end up contributing, too. 

It's fanboyism to say that something fails because some other company took 'first place' in raw sales.