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c0rd said:
obieslut said:
well soriku you are one hard lil persistant fellow i will give you that, but i support epic on this one and i am sure many people would agree with me.

but this site is full of Ninty fanboys. i have never been on a site with so many of them. the topics on this site are really biased and supports the Wii. i mean how long are all of you going to keep complaining about developers not wanting to take a step back and downgrade to the Wii hardware.

epic are graphics whores simple as that, and the Wii does not produce the power to create such nice looking games.

you should be happy that nintendo can create good games, Zelda. when they are ready to getting around to release a Wii zelda. how long can it really take on that system to create a game, you would think this zelda was in hd or something.

Anyway back on topic if Epic dos not want to bring games like gears to the Wii then its up to them. i think this dev team is far to proud to allow the games they work really really hard on,

to still be 480p low res angry lil man running around killing anything in site that dont even look like a alien because the graphics are to poor to show what they waned to portray.

Okay, honestly... That was a joke, right?

I think he was serious. I also want to add that I think he's never touched a Wii in his life.

 



Didn't he just get unbanned? Some people never learn.



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LordTheNightKnight said:
Squilliam said:
Epic can make more money where they are,while there have been countless good arguments that developers (In general) would make more money developing on the Wii and thats fine. When the exception walks in the door you don't have to have a hissy fit and start calling them names. Its pretty immature, people just walk away.

 

You obviously didn't read the first post. We know ALREADY they don't want to make games for the Wii. That's NOT what's setting us off. It's lying that Wii owners wouldn't buy their games.

They don't have to make games for the Wii. Just don't lie that there aren't enough Wii owners who would buy those kinds of games.

Epic: Our games don't appeal to the wii crowd enough to make the development costs worthwhile

 Blackened is the unstated premise.

Geez, people read things so litterally nowadays.

Furthermore on the blackened development costs mean - time, return on investment, best use of resources etc.



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Squilliam said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
Squilliam said:
Epic can make more money where they are,while there have been countless good arguments that developers (In general) would make more money developing on the Wii and thats fine. When the exception walks in the door you don't have to have a hissy fit and start calling them names. Its pretty immature, people just walk away.

 

You obviously didn't read the first post. We know ALREADY they don't want to make games for the Wii. That's NOT what's setting us off. It's lying that Wii owners wouldn't buy their games.

They don't have to make games for the Wii. Just don't lie that there aren't enough Wii owners who would buy those kinds of games.

Epic: Our games don't appeal to the wii crowd enough to make the development costs worthwhile

 Blackened is the unstated premise.

Geez, people read things so litterally nowadays.

Furthermore on the blackened development costs mean - time, return on investment, best use of resources etc.

 

Proof? You don't have any, and unless Epic provides some, it's a lie.



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chasmatic12 said:
c0rd said:
obieslut said:
well soriku you are one hard lil persistant fellow i will give you that, but i support epic on this one and i am sure many people would agree with me.

but this site is full of Ninty fanboys. i have never been on a site with so many of them. the topics on this site are really biased and supports the Wii. i mean how long are all of you going to keep complaining about developers not wanting to take a step back and downgrade to the Wii hardware.

epic are graphics whores simple as that, and the Wii does not produce the power to create such nice looking games.

you should be happy that nintendo can create good games, Zelda. when they are ready to getting around to release a Wii zelda. how long can it really take on that system to create a game, you would think this zelda was in hd or something.

Anyway back on topic if Epic dos not want to bring games like gears to the Wii then its up to them. i think this dev team is far to proud to allow the games they work really really hard on,

to still be 480p low res angry lil man running around killing anything in site that dont even look like a alien because the graphics are to poor to show what they waned to portray.

Okay, honestly... That was a joke, right?

I think he was serious. I also want to add that I think he's never touched a Wii in his life.

 

hahahahahaha funny thing is i almost brought a Wii of my friend but he wouldnt come down in price enough for me to justify the purchase. All i want is a few ninty games from that system and that about it really to be honest.

 



Instead of arguing why don't we just have a little vote. How many Wii owners here would like to play Unreal Tournament 3 with downgraded graphics, physics, potentially number of players online decreased and friend codes on the Wii?



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ion-storm said:

Instead of arguing why don't we just have a little vote. How many Wii owners here would like to play Unreal Tournament 3 with downgraded graphics, physics, potentially number of players online decreased and friend codes on the Wii?

 

Not me, but I've played past iterations of Unreal Tournament, and from what I've heard from many sources, this game is more of the same. Thanks but no thanks. Epic makes good games, but they are WAAAAAYYY overrated.



ion-storm said:

Instead of arguing why don't we just have a little vote. How many Wii owners here would like to play Unreal Tournament 3 with downgraded graphics, physics, potentially number of players online decreased and friend codes on the Wii?

 

Who says it would have friends codes? EA got around that. And pretending their is no advantage, the greater control, is just as big a lie as Epic was saying.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

I got some face time with Michael Capps, President of Epic Games, to see how the little independent studio that could feels about going with a Big Scary Publisher – especially one like EA that's got a reputation for ruthlessness with smaller development houses.

“The EA five years ago is not the same EA they are now. We wouldn’t have partnered with them five years ago,” Capps counters – shooting a furtive look at the EA handler at the interview. He scratches the back of his neck and removes a square of tape. “From the [stage] microphone,” he says.

Sure, I believe him. He’s not going all Manchurian Candidate on me.

I asked about his game and got one of those fluffy PR answers about “it’s great, but we can’t tell you about it.” But he did say that it was being developed by Polish studio People Can Fly, which Epic picked up last spring after being blown away by how awesome the studio did with PC content for Gears of War.

“We said ‘do another Painkiller!’” Capps laughs. He’s really into Painkiller – and guns, and things that go “boom.” But what do you expect from the guy who brought the world Unreal Tournament and Gears of War?

Gears of War 2, is what I expect, maybe another Painkiller. But Capps is anxious to go with a new IP; and that’s a big part of why he went with EA instead of some other huge publisher. Their enthusiasm about this mystery project clicked with Epic’s enthusiasm – and that’s the way to make a game, Capps says. You need more than just a dev team that’s jazzed about the game; an entire studio of people has to love the game so much that they’re willing to sacrifice sleep and years off their lives. So People Can Fly + Epic + EA = at least 300 people who aren’t going to sleep for the next few years while this game gets made.

I say “few” because Epic’s average dev cycle is between three and four years and we can assume this idea was pitched well before my interview. Gears of War 2 doesn’t count because most of the game was already made before they even started, so cut that dev cycle down to two years.

So what kind of game are we getting for the collaboration of no sleep? Anyone’s guess at this point, by my money’s on something action-packed with a rich back story and tons of super cool guns that explode things. And multiplayer; they can’t do a game without multiplayer.

“We don’t do unicorns,” Capps says. I asked about exploding unicorns and he wrote something down, muttering, “We’ll see.”

We only get so many ‘fuck’ tokens,” Capps says. “And ‘badass’ is one of them, so I won’t use that…” But he says bigger than “wicked” and better than “really cool.” And we won’t have to worry about some watered-down version on the Wii. Capps is pretty sure this new game won’t appeal to “that crowd” and that the best way to make a game that works on multiple platforms is to build a super-awesome story, find a badass hero and then work with the system particulars to deliver tailored experiences. So – maybe – mods for the PS3 version and official DLC for 360?

“We’ll see, we’ll see,” Capps says.

As a parting shot, I asked about chicks in this new game. I hinted (flat-out said) every Epic game I’ve seen is severely devoid of badass females (except Unreal Tournament) and wanted to know if he planned to do anything about it. Apparently, I’m not the only one with this concern. Capps’s girlfriend is also very interested in the badassitute of female characters in Epic games – ditto for the EA handler’s girlfriend and double it for all the guys at People Can Fly with girlfriends.

“Well, we thought about…” Capps starts to say. The EA handler sits up and Capps switches to, “Ah! I can’t, I can’t! You almost got me!”

Almost. The option to play as a girl? Co-op female sidekick? Gotta wait a little longer for more details to leak out.

But seriously – Epic – give me Ellen Ripley and exploding unicorns. Is that so much to ask?

Bolded are of interest regarding the Wii. You can't blame them for not wanting to do a Wii version and quite frankly that reason alone is justified. Furthermore why would the Wii crowd even want a watered down version of something thats designed for the Xbox360/PS3/PC? They would sooner pick something like the Conduit which has been designed from the ground up to cater to the strengths of that platform. Since this game isn't coming out for another 2 years most likely I would bet there would be plenty of shooters available on the Wii which would cater to the Wii crowd much better.



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