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Rumor goes that SE is talking with Warner to bring KH3 with Looney Tunes characters instead so they can publish it for PS3/360. You heard it here first!



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Soriku said:
Obliterator1700 said:
Soriku said:
Obliterator1700 said:
@Tbone

Apparently we got someone that knows better then the reporters & designers themselves...

 

That's like saying if anyone argues over where a game will go then they know more than the reporter (the guy who wrote the article wasn't even reporting. He was speculating.) and the designers. Flawed logic.
Maybe you should check the definition of reporter again...If not heres the definition:A writer, investigator, or presenter of news stories. I'm not saying they way you used the word speculation is incorrect but your trying to imply that I'm incorrect, when indeed I'm correct.

 


 

ROFL. VGC: Semanatics class CONFIRMED!
You mean semantics class.

 



Obliterator1700 said:
Soriku said:
Obliterator1700 said:
Soriku said:
Obliterator1700 said:
@Tbone

Apparently we got someone that knows better then the reporters & designers themselves...

 

That's like saying if anyone argues over where a game will go then they know more than the reporter (the guy who wrote the article wasn't even reporting. He was speculating.) and the designers. Flawed logic.
Maybe you should check the definition of reporter again...If not heres the definition:A writer, investigator, or presenter of news stories. I'm not saying they way you used the word speculation is incorrect but your trying to imply that I'm incorrect, when indeed I'm correct.

 


 

ROFL. VGC: Semanatics class CONFIRMED!
You mean semantics class.

 

please....refrain from doing that Obliterator. >_>

it's kinda childish

 



so....are we done discussing?...I really hope this gets locked...



The demograph of the Kingdom Hearts series is very complicated. Many people see it as a core game for its Action and Storyline, while others see it is casual because it incorporates Disney characters. The simple truth is that it's not what the game is about, but rather how it is marketed. The casual demograph is much larger than the core demograph so Disney decides to market towards casual. Soriku's videos have shown that there are no FF characters in the video, because they are portrayed as mean and serious. They show Disney characters, which are fun and quirky. Kids will buy it thinking that it is going to be a really fun game that shows their childhood idols. They are not going to read about it online, or go onto G4, or buy magazines about it. They want it for the Disney in the game.

The Wii is the main supporter of this demograph. Even though I do not have solid numbers to prove this, it is common sense to think that the Wii has more people from this demograph than th HD consoles. If it was marketed as a core RPG, then the PS3 could certainly get some solid sales in, but I think they would rather put it on the Wii and market it as a casual game for larger sales. Larger sales mean more money, and the lower development costs of the Wii means a lot more money. Video game companies are only in it for the profits, not loyalty and making customers happy. The Wii will make them a lot of money with proper marketing.

And now to address the gameplay and graphics issues. The gameplay issue is very subjective. It all boils down to personal opinion. Nomura will certainly recognize issues that people will have with gameplay. I doubt he would make one control scheme. He could make one control scheme where you only use the buttons to attack, use magic, and summon. He could also have one where the motion controls are incorporate into some attacks, as in special attacks and magic. And then there could be full-blown motion controls, where you use motion controls for nearly every attack. Just because there is a gameplay change does not mean the game will suffer in quality.

And as for graphics, the Wii is certainly more powerful than the last-gen consoles. It is capable of bringing sufficient enough graphics to satisfy KH fans. Also, KH games are not really centered around realism, they are centered around art style. Power usually makes no difference in the art style of the games. And even if Nomura wanted to have extra power for the graphics, he would have put Kingdom Hearts on the XBox since it was far more powerful than the PS2.

So, I think that Wii-exclusive is the most likely outcome for KH3. It has the demograph, the profits, the gameplay, and the graphics. It does not have to be exclusive, but due to the conflicting markets of the consoles, sales might suffer on one console and they may not see that money back. PS360 is another alternative due to the fact that they have the same market, but by the time of KH3's release, Wii will have greater sales than PS360, and it would gain greater profits as well.

Final Word: The Wii is the most likely console for KH3 due to the fact that it will have greater sales and profits.




Kimi wa ne tashika ni ano toki watashi no soba ni ita

Itsudatte itsudatte itsudatte

Sugu yoko de waratteita

Nakushitemo torimodosu kimi wo

I will never leave you

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deathcape said:
Jo21 said:
deathcape said:

I'm tired of this debate..let's assume..all sony fanboys everybody right..and BBS is more signinifcant to the story than 358/2 days..since it'll just be random..okay..

KHCoM was relevant..why? cuz it wouldn't sell if it weren't..on the gameboy

BBS story is relevant..why? cuz it wouldn't sell if it weren't...on the PSP

358/2 days is irrelevant...yet it'll sell on the DS

main series? always sell

wouldn't it make more sense for SE to release KH3 on the Wii than on the PS3?



Disney's 'love' for Nintendo will show soon enough...it's the REASON that PSP got the more important story....to make up for not getting the sequal..

just like KHCoM was for Nintendo.....they never got a KH

(I still stand by my opinion that all of the new games are as important...)

 are you nomura?

u can't know thats why the reason the put it there, maybe he wanted to prequel to have graphics close to kh2.

and since the engine was built already to crisis core why not to use it in the biggest title?

remind you other disney games like wall-e  or cars or (insert movie here)are also on the ps2/ps3 xbox360.

that doens't mean disney is some kind of lover of nintendo.

and no it doesn't make more sense.

it all depends or where is more factible to release the sequel, crystal tools its multiplatform yet focused on the ps3.

and since still ps360 share is huge it have a bigger market than the wii.

it more likely to be multiplatform than going exclusive to the wii.

even if you put demographic, it demo graphic even with the disney characters its still people who played the game before know the story, there is no way to tell where they go.

but since its kingdom hearts not matter where it go people will buy the console its.

the only reason i could think off to release it on the wii is profit, but since its KH its going to get a HUGE budget anyway.

not matter the hardware it is in, or demographic, it will sell like hot cakes and make profit.

 

 

 

 

 

look at the bolded part...and notice why your argument fails..compared to mine...well

 

good luck with life...being a graphics whore doesn't pay off..

 

it's like only liking chicks who look hot...and not caring about the rest..

 

I don't know many developers that put graphics before gameplay...not many great developers..

 

ALL devs that put graphics first..all of them will be forgotten in 2-5 years after that one hit game...if any

check the maybe.

the point was unless you are him you can't know why birth by sleep is on the psp.

@to post above.

by the same reason it may go multiplatform.



Jo21 said:
deathcape said:
Jo21 said:
deathcape said:

I'm tired of this debate..let's assume..all sony fanboys everybody right..and BBS is more signinifcant to the story than 358/2 days..since it'll just be random..okay..

KHCoM was relevant..why? cuz it wouldn't sell if it weren't..on the gameboy

BBS story is relevant..why? cuz it wouldn't sell if it weren't...on the PSP

358/2 days is irrelevant...yet it'll sell on the DS

main series? always sell

wouldn't it make more sense for SE to release KH3 on the Wii than on the PS3?



Disney's 'love' for Nintendo will show soon enough...it's the REASON that PSP got the more important story....to make up for not getting the sequal..

just like KHCoM was for Nintendo.....they never got a KH

(I still stand by my opinion that all of the new games are as important...)

 are you nomura?

u can't know thats why the reason the put it there, maybe he wanted to prequel to have graphics close to kh2.

and since the engine was built already to crisis core why not to use it in the biggest title?

remind you other disney games like wall-e  or cars or (insert movie here)are also on the ps2/ps3 xbox360.

that doens't mean disney is some kind of lover of nintendo.

and no it doesn't make more sense.

it all depends or where is more factible to release the sequel, crystal tools its multiplatform yet focused on the ps3.

and since still ps360 share is huge it have a bigger market than the wii.

it more likely to be multiplatform than going exclusive to the wii.

even if you put demographic, it demo graphic even with the disney characters its still people who played the game before know the story, there is no way to tell where they go.

but since its kingdom hearts not matter where it go people will buy the console its.

the only reason i could think off to release it on the wii is profit, but since its KH its going to get a HUGE budget anyway.

not matter the hardware it is in, or demographic, it will sell like hot cakes and make profit.

 

 

 

 

 

look at the bolded part...and notice why your argument fails..compared to mine...well

 

good luck with life...being a graphics whore doesn't pay off..

 

it's like only liking chicks who look hot...and not caring about the rest..

 

I don't know many developers that put graphics before gameplay...not many great developers..

 

ALL devs that put graphics first..all of them will be forgotten in 2-5 years after that one hit game...if any

check the maybe.

the point was unless you are him you can't know why birth by sleep is on the psp.

@to post above.

by the same reason it may go multiplatform.

goodnight Jo...have a goodnight sleep..obviously you're not awake yet

 

you see...I was speculating..and you're acting as if I KNOW here it's going...look...you can believe I saw so...but it's not true

 

I was just guessing..wha reasons are there for this and that...and just write them down..

 

all you do is being a fanboy...^_^

 



Jo21 said:

@to post above.

by the same reason it may go multiplatform.

Are you illiterate or do you just not read posts because you think you know what they say?

 



Kimi wa ne tashika ni ano toki watashi no soba ni ita

Itsudatte itsudatte itsudatte

Sugu yoko de waratteita

Nakushitemo torimodosu kimi wo

I will never leave you

... Wait... Why isn't the Wii here? The 360? Didn't see that coming... I will say this...
Wii: 60% Biggest Fanbase, Kingdom Hearts would sell like hotcakes, since a good chunk of Ps2 owners were casual and bought a Wii... I did.
Ps3: 30% The game was on the previous system, but that doesn't do much (e.g. Metal Gear: NES Metal Gear Solid: PS1)
Wii and PS3: 10% While Kingdom Hearts hasn't go multiplatform in it's history (they're even making different handhelds games for Ds and PSP) This would be very successful.
Notes: Disney doesn't have a love for Sony. Cloud, Aerith, Sephiroth, etc. are owned by Square Enix, not Sony. PS2 fanbase didn't all buy a PS3, but broke up among the consoles, meaning Kingdom Hearts has a fanbase on each one.



dtewi said:

Jo21 said:

@to post above.

by the same reason it may go multiplatform.

Are you illiterate or do you just not read posts because you think you know what they say?

 

 

yes i did but i was refering to the first point, but in previous generation, gamecube was a kids console too  and kh appear on the ps2 just because it had a bigger base.

"The demograph of the Kingdom Hearts series is very complicated. Many people see it as a core game for its Action and Storyline, while others see it is casual because it incorporates Disney characters. The simple truth is that it's not what the game is about, but rather how it is marketed. The casual demograph is much larger than the core demograph so Disney decides to market towards casual. Soriku's videos have shown that there are no FF characters in the video, because they are portrayed as mean and serious. They show Disney characters, which are fun and quirky. Kids will buy it thinking that it is going to be a really fun game that shows their childhood idols. They are not going to read about it online, or go onto G4, or buy magazines about it. They want it for the Disney in the game."

they had their engine built for the ps2 due ffx being finished.

but this time around their engine its multiplatform, they have it easy to port a game already in development proof of this ff13 going multiplatform.

there is no way to proof that its demographic gone to the wii

since  in america only 18% have gone wii and 28% have gone HD and not even 50% of the ps2 owners (i took this from npd)

and even if you put profit is a main reason, they would grab more market releasing it 3 consoles than just one.

@deathcape

... because calling anyone a fanboy makes feel important right?

did you read my post i have wii and a ps3? i could care less where it ends i will be able to play it anyway.

in the previous post i was defending my maybe even its just a especulation too, didn't mention anything about you.