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Forums - Sales - The Official July NPD Thread (data for 4 weeks ending 8/2 comes @ 6:30 est)

well done to the ps3, well done to the 360 (fantastic sales for saying it's had a year longer on the market)

wii and ds, phenomenal as always, 7-0 to nintendo



nintendo and sega fan since i was old enough to hold a game controller.

note: my games collection on my profile is only 20ish% complete, i've got a boatload of 360,saturn and dreamcast games to add and a few ps3 games, thanks :)

 

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Squilliam said:

To what? My sig doesn't account for the first 4 days of July and I have a feeling that IOI was correct on the shortages so those extra PS3 numbers *if true* are most likely weighted towards the start of July anyway.

:/ This is annoying.

 

 

Look at your post history, your predictions, and your general philosophy on the Playstation 3.  You really didn't see this one coming?



Console Agnostic since 2001.

blazinhead89 said:
Gobias said:
talkingparrot said:
Squilliam dies.

 

Fixed.


 

lolololol, This is F##ckin Epic, Wheres Starcraft & Squlliam & Mrstickball with their 360 damage control lolololol,

Damage control? Pffft it was awesome numbers for the Xbox360. 200k is almost 100% more than 100k.  



Tease.

superchunk said:
SOLIDSNAKE08 said:
superchunk said:
SOLIDSNAKE08 said:

to be fair to vgchartz, they never really made a mistake, as they state the numbers are ESTIMATES. which basically means the numbers are bullshit and probably way way off! lol. its true though!

All tracking companies numbers are estimates.

 

 

NPD is the closest we can get to accurate numbers.

If you say so. To me and NPD not having 40%+ of the market to count allows them the ability to be just as off as VGC or any other tracking firm. Just look how far off the two Japanese firms are from one another most weeks.

EDIT: Read norlead's post, also shows NPD has historically been farther off than VGC.

 

Sorry but in the past members on this forum always used NPD as a confirmation of the the real numbers.  Remember all those 'PS3 overtracked LOOOOL' comments ? Even ioi said it once and now PS3 outsells X360 and VGC looks to be wrong we are all going to say now VGC>>>>>>>>>>>NPD???






While I do find the way Squilliam is dealing with this enjoyable, what we need is some real break downs.



As in go buy us some coffee.

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Squilliam please cry for us XD.



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Gobias said:
marciosmg said:
Gobias said:
TWRoO said:
You don't use the VGC number to divide by to work out %age differences.

if the dirrerence between VGC and NPD (for PS3) is ~45k... then it's 45/225 = 0.2

20% difference.

180k was already scaled to US, so it is around 25%.

 

I think he meant that I should have divided 45 by NPD number, not VGC. And right.

 

VGC is 20% lower than NPD number. BUT, NPD number is 25% higher than VGC´s, which is what I was going for, so I am right as well.

 

The wonders of Mathematics :D

Ah okay, that makes more sense. (I'm terrible at math)

 

 

You are correct Marcio.... it can go both ways... it's just you stated "VGC is 25% off".

This means you are assuming NPD is the more likely correct figure.... so you should use that to divide by.

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To be honest I am not sure if I trust NPD though... after all ioi does get very accurate numbers for Japan (Famitsu and Media Create both track about 60% directly... and they can be off by 20% from each other easily... ioi is generally in the middle)

And in GfK regions, most of the time now when we see figures VGC numbers are spot on, and GfK tracks 90%+ in their markets.

NPD meanwhile, tracks ~60% like Famitsu or Media Create, yet the differences to VGC are sometimes quite large, so I suspect something is wrong there.... especially suspicious with VGC being too high when Sony's report came out, so if VGC was correct in Japan and PAL, it must have been America it was too high, and yet NPD has PS3 higher much of the time (last time VGC was higher for PS3 was April)

Perhaps it is true that we only get the crud figures from NPD (the freebies) in that when they realise past numbers need changing they just add it on to the next month instead.



konnichiwa said:
superchunk said:
SOLIDSNAKE08 said:
superchunk said:
SOLIDSNAKE08 said:

to be fair to vgchartz, they never really made a mistake, as they state the numbers are ESTIMATES. which basically means the numbers are bullshit and probably way way off! lol. its true though!

All tracking companies numbers are estimates.

 

 

NPD is the closest we can get to accurate numbers.

If you say so. To me and NPD not having 40%+ of the market to count allows them the ability to be just as off as VGC or any other tracking firm. Just look how far off the two Japanese firms are from one another most weeks.

EDIT: Read norlead's post, also shows NPD has historically been farther off than VGC.

 

Sorry but in the past members on this forum always used NPD as a confirmation of the the real numbers.  Remember all those 'PS3 overtracked LOOOOL' comments ? Even ioi said it once and now PS3 outsells X360 and VGC looks to be wrong we are all going to say now VGC>>>>>>>>>>>NPD???

I have always maintained that VGC could be >>> than NPD. I havn't seen NPD used as a "confirmation" on this site by ioi. Only by fans of particular consoles to yell at VGC when they think VGC is way off or showing bias etc.



Squills - Crafty, I'll throw you playas a bone.

You guys could always use this line: "360 sold more software combined than 3triple and Wii."



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Squilliam said:
blazinhead89 said:
Gobias said:
talkingparrot said:
Squilliam dies.

 

Fixed.


 

lolololol, This is F##ckin Epic, Wheres Starcraft & Squlliam & Mrstickball with their 360 damage control lolololol,

Damage control? Pffft it was awesome numbers for the Xbox360. 200k is almost 100% more than 100k.  


So The PS3 Numbers were even more awesome? Despite the 360 having a price cut and despite PS3 Costing 399???? Just Imagine if it had been the PS3 that had the price cut,,,,,, PS3 dominates NA Confirmed