@bumidan... ahh yes, I missed that bit.
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Ok In America, Microsoft software has sold ~20.5 million this generation (by VGC)

So using the 7.5 attach ratio for total software in Americas we get 91 million units of software... although VGC has it higher at 112 million. (almost 10:1 attach ratio... which can't be right because MS themselves have stated 67 million 3rd party sales in USA.... add 10% (Canada etc) to make 75 million, then add 20 million for 1st party and you only have 95 million.... so VGC is overtracking 360 software)

either way.... The Source is correct, 1st:3rd party on the X360 is about 20%

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For PS3.... we know the total 3rd party software in USA is just under 20 million (up to May or June 2008).... add 10% to get Americas, so about 22 million..... and going by VGC the first party software adds to 7.5 million

So Sony 1st:3rd party is about 1:3, or 75 % 3rd party.

Nintendo: 52.5% 3rd party (Nintendo figure for worldwide)
Sony: ~ 75% (estimate using VGC Americas/NPD USA)
MS: ~ 80% ( " " " )

Is it safe to assume that, on average, 3rd party revenues, per title, are greater on the X360/PS3 than they are on the Wii? If so, how much greater, do you suppose?

Huh?

But the software numbers I am using is for worldwide, the same as Nintendo and Sony.

Anyway, I don't dispute the 20% for XBox. I don't know enough.

Which is why I used the different scenarios and just used the middle for a simpler analysis.

That would be very tough to figure out.  It should be greater, just because I see 29.99 titles for the Wii (even for new titles) - from some small publisher, but very seldom for the PS3 or 360.

You can probably use some of EA's numbers as a guide.  Though I didn't see a unit total to have a revenue per unit determination.

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=36856&start=0

Sorry... I was just using a few numbers to confirm the approximate 1st:3rd party ratios.

Perhaps you have seen them, but a few threads were put up with graphs about 3rd party sales in the USA recently.... because Nintendo released a graph showing total game sales (in USA, according to NPD) for the first 19 months of each console.... then a second graph with just 3rd party sales in forst 19 months.... And MS responded with some other numbers.

Actually ther was (in my opinion) a more interesting bit of info which came from Pachter.... he stated that so far in USA, in 2008 (Jan-June I assume) 3rd party sales have been 13 million for Wii and 16 million for X360.

Now considering that most of Jan-June the X360 still had a userbase advantage, as well as the huge sales of GTAIV (over 3 million in themselves) this means Wii 3rd party is keeping up really well with 360 3rd party.... and that's against Nintendoes huge 1st party hits too!

Revenues per title yes. (PS360 games are on average $5-10 more)

Profit per title? unlikely.

@TWRoO

Yes. I have seen those other threads. Which is why I put up this thread - as you can see from the threads objective.

The other thread has US only data. This thread has extrapolated Worldwide data.

I think our analysis and conclusion confirms everything those other threads (at least the correct or reasonable posters) say.

It's just that this thread will get less posts due to its "numbers", and you basically have to back up your claims with some math as well.

Haha..

For the 1st 6 months, our assumed 3rd Party sales for Wii = 39 million (shipped to retail)

Pachter says its about 13 million in the USA - sold to consumers. Add a few more million to estimate shipped to retail = 15 - 16 million

This represents about 40% of the 39 million (est.) 3rd party sales.

The US represents about 40% of Wii install base.

Therefore: Our analysis is somewhat accurate for 3rd Party sales.

Also, next time, I am gonna make my thread titles sexier and more eyecatching.

For example, if I was to rename this thread, it would be either:

1. Wii SELLS MORE 3rd Party than X360! Microsoft Lying!

2. X360 dominates Wii in 3rd Party Sales! Nintendo Lying!

3. Wii 3rd Party Attach Rate - SUPER LOW!!

Ha ha... yeah I fail at thread titles.... I sya what it is, but no-one is interested in that, they want CAPS LOCK ON FOR MASSIVE CONTROVERSY!!!1!

My threads often fail to reach page 2.

I am actually considering making a thread about that Pachter info... because no one seems to be focussing on that, and I think it is one of the most important bits o what came out of it (Nintendo was focussing too much on 1st 19 months, which meant MS was percieved low.... MS was foccusing on totals and "since Wii launch" which meant Wii was percieved low)

I think titling it "Another 3rd party thread" is both catchy enough to draw in people (because they will want to moan at yet another 3rd party thread) but is also not so tupid sounding like most catchy titles.