But how else is ToV is going to get exposure in the West since Namco Bandai(American) don't want to put effort into marketing anymore?

Yeah, the battle system is cool, but I would like to see the WHOLE game evolve a bit over the last one.  I'll have to wait and try the full version from the beginning instead of being thrown right in the middle.  I disliked the Blue Dragon demo for the same reason.

Not me. Desing in VesperiaGameplay was great, and story feels very interesting (Not that the demo show something about that). Very cool.
But a JRPG demo doesnt show the right side, just like BD demo, that wasnt something awesome, but the full game was good.

Eternal Sonata falls short in so many areas: Combat is too shallow later on, Story sucks, and the game is (for the vast part) far too easy.

Tales, although not perfect, seems to be far better in those areas.

I agree with this.

Eternal Sonata was surprisingly dissapointing.

However, if you have ever played another game by these guys, you would know why a lot of people like the demo.

I completely understand why a new player wouldn't be impressed by what they saw. It is a very delicate balance, creating a good JRPG, and you can't exactly know how deep the battle system, story, or fun is gonna get by playing a demo. :P

I suggest playing Tales of the Abyss or Tales of Symphonia first, if you have doubts. I think the same team that worked on those two excellent games is back.

This is actually not as much of a "troll post" as his usual ones.

Checking his posting history, this is a milder Playstation shill.

However, if I said this about a Playstation game, on snap, I'd be flamed to hell.

Then again, I'd have more respect than to say something like that, even if it was true.

The demo was indeed crap, but it's hard to judge JRPG off of that. It's pretty much the same old Tales game with HD graphics, the environments and graphics was a bit disappointing though... It's hard to get into it when the demo throws you half way into the game with characters you don't know and skills you didn't earn. This is why JRPG demos typically sucks, and it's a bad idea to begin with. I'd save my judgment for the final game.

You do realize that MGS4, RE5, DMC4, GTAIV, Oblivion, Fire Emblem, God of War 2, Madden, Brawl, Soulcalibur, Tekken, Gears of War 2, Disgaea 3, GRID and Twilight Princess didn't/won't evolve much either. Instead they stand out as great examples of something that already exists, not something new. They rely on breadth and quality of content along with graphical and presentational upgrades.

The JRPG is a genre known for its complacency, but Tales of Symphonia managed to deliver fresh gameplay with the idea of "fighting game in a JRPG" which worked out very well for them. That system was mildly tweaked in TotA, and I expect minor upgrades here as well. It manages to be challenging, while at the same time open to many different possibilities. That's why the core gameplay really evolved the genre with Symphonia, as if you'll recall, it basically did the gambit system before FFXII, and seems to really be the predecessor for how that game was played, and the direction neojrpgs are headed.

As for that graphics, as long as it runs in 16:9, I don't really care, but that's just me. I loved the graphics in ToS, personally, I find them charming, and I also loved the graphics in Eternal Sonata and Lost Odyssey. However, unfortunately, I didn't like ES or LO as much as I thought I would. I highly suggest not playing LO until you have the ability to install the game on a hard-drive(it'll take a very larger one, I'd wager).

That's further proof that Western reviewers have a bias against JRPGs.

I've never played a game like this before, and when I downloaded the demo I didn't understand the combat system so it was difficult for me to enjoy. I'll wait for the game to come out and see what some of the reviewers say about the game. If the general concensus is the game is good then i'll be picking it up.