FishyJoe said:
Because Greenpeace is run by a bunch of nuts. |
I would like to second this.
FishyJoe said:
Because Greenpeace is run by a bunch of nuts. |
Or because Greenpeace looks at a lot more than one criteria...Its not like they have anything to gain by saying one video game company is better than another.
We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls. The only thing that really worried me was the ether. There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke
It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...." Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson
| akuma587 said:
Or because Greenpeace looks at a lot more than one criteria...Its not like they have anything to gain by saying one video game company is better than another. |
Actually they didn't look at any criteria in their (non-)evaluation of Nintendo. They didn't judge any data because Nintendo didn't give them details about manufacturing.
Instead of taking the console apart and analyzing it, Greenpeace simply gave them a zero score... No other factors were taken into account (such as power consumption). Their report is a joke.
My Mario Kart Wii friend code: 2707-1866-0957
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Yeah, it is two Gamecubes duct-taped together!
Rofl.
NJ5 said:
Actually they didn't look at any criteria in their (non-)evaluation of Nintendo. They didn't judge any data because Nintendo didn't give them details about manufacturing. Instead of taking the console apart and analyzing it, Greenpeace simply gave them a zero score... No other factors were taken into account (such as power consumption). Their report is a joke.
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The Greener Electronics Guide is our way of getting the electronics industry to face up to the problem of e-waste. We want manufacturers to get rid of harmful chemicals in their products. We want to see an end to the stories of unprotected child labourers scavenging mountains of cast-off gadgets created by society's gizmo-loving ways.
The Guide ranks companies according to their policies and practices on toxic chemicals and takeback. Along with mobile phone and personal computer companies, we've now added the biggest makers of TVs and games consoles. Old TVs are a large part of e-waste and the games console market is one of the fastest growing in consumer electronics.
Nintendo has the dubious honour of being the first company to score 0/10 in the guide. Microsoft did little better, scoring only 2.7. Philips is the lowest TV-maker scoring only 2. The companies are new to the Guide so have plenty of room for improvement.
Heading the ranking, Sony Ericsson has taken over number one spot from Nokia while Samsung and Sony have surged ahead to now occupy second and third positions. Nokia and Motorola have each had a penalty point deducted after we found their claims of global takeback were not being matched by actual practice.
We tested the implementation of product takeback programmes in six countries where Motorola, Nokia and Sony Ericsson claim, on their websites, to operate product takeback programmes. Nokia representatives in the Philippines, Thailand, Argentina, Russia and India were not informed about their companies' own programmes and in many cases provided misleading information. Motorola staff in the Philippines, Thailand and India were unable to direct customers to collection points in their respective countries.
Here is one example from our investigations when we visited a Nokia centre recommended by Nokia for recycling phones in Argentina with a hidden camera:
As a result, Nokia falls from top position to ninth and Motorola drops from ninth position to fourteenth.
"Companies shouldn't be under any illusions that we won't check up on their claims of green greatness," commented Iza Kruszewska, toxics campaigner at Greenpeace International.
Companies making the most progress with new products without the worst toxic chemicals are now ranking higher than companies who have only committed to remove them in the future. Toshiba has laptops free of toxic chemicals like vinyl plastic (PVC) and has reduced the use of brominated flame retardants (BFRs). Apple's score improves slightly due to new iMacs reducing the use of PVC and BFRs. All new mobiles from Sony Ericsson and Nokia have been free of PVC since the end of 2006.
Our guide focuses on toxic chemicals and takeback policy because of the rapid growth in quantities of toxic e-waste being dumped in developing countries like China and India. While Nintendo's Wii console appears to be more energy efficient compared to the Microsoft Xbox and Sony Playstation, energy use is not yet covered in the ranking.
Many companies have made big strides to improve their products and recycling schemes since the introduction of the Guide. But no company has so far succeeded in offering a entire range of products free of the worst toxic chemicals or a comprehensive, free, global takeback scheme to ensure responsible recycling.
We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls. The only thing that really worried me was the ether. There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke
It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...." Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson
Gnizmo said:
I would like to second this. |
Third
I say we bring the vote to the floor
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"Our guide focuses on toxic chemicals and takeback policy because of the rapid growth in quantities of toxic e-waste being dumped in developing countries like China and India. While Nintendo's Wii console appears to be more energy efficient compared to the Microsoft Xbox and Sony Playstation, energy use is not yet covered in the ranking."
There is the mention of energy efficiency, also stating it wasn't part of it.
The survey was mostly about the use of hazardous materials used for electronics, mainly PVCs.... Nintendo did not disclose any information to Greenpeace, so they shouldn't have scored them at all, or done their own research if they were that bothered.
Many things were not taken into account for the survey in regards to how "green" a product is.... Greenpeace had a 1 track mind onto PVCs and whether the company themselves take machines back for recycling.... things like energy efficiency and the fact that most consoles (unlike PCs, TVs, phones etc) don't in fact get thrown on the dump anyway....especially reliable ones like Wii and PS3 (and GC and Xbox, N64, Dreamcast)
Greenpeace are like a child.... don't give them what they want on a plate and they throw a tantrum, especially if they have to do work to get what they want (like scoring Nokia down so much because their recycling policy was not upheld in some countries)
NJ5 said:
Actually they didn't look at any criteria in their (non-)evaluation of Nintendo. They didn't judge any data because Nintendo didn't give them details about manufacturing. Instead of taking the console apart and analyzing it, Greenpeace simply gave them a zero score... No other factors were taken into account (such as power consumption). Their report is a joke.
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Though I like Apple and Nintendo as companies and in terms of what they produce, as a consumer I wish they would...well, care about the world more, by 1) making at least some effort to be eco-friendly and then 2) publicize that they are doing so. To do neither is really...fucked.
Jobs has finally, finally caved and has started to give a damn about unnecessary use of pollutants, which a large segment of his consumers care about (many of whom may be stockholders as well.)
So the PS3 uses more electricity than....20 wiis!
I suppose it is considerably larger....but still....
lol the ps3 uses 380 watts an hour, thats the price you have to pay for blu-ray and 8 cores :)
btw, ill gladly pay it
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