I'm a Roman Catholic, with rather traditionalist leanings.

So yes, I do believe in God. :)

kirby007 said: The Ghost of RubangB said:   GOD i love myself

If that's you, well...you're kind've small.  In certain areas.  >_>

makingmusic476 said: kirby007 said: The Ghost of RubangB said:   GOD i love myself If that's you, well...you're kind've small.  In certain areas.  >_>

The world can't handle the real size, much depressions would be the consequense xD

Yes, and I would consider myself a Christian, although I don't think everything in the Bible is true, and I don't go to church.

So, some would not call me a Christian.

Do  you consider Jesus Christ your saviour and believe he is the son of God? If so I personally consider you a Christian.

Of course, and I pray to Him every day and night, and are always looking to Him for guidance.

Speaking of which...I must go to bed and do my nightly prayers, it's really late.

I think its 50/50 for me, on and off sometimes.

so basically, you believe what you believe o you don't have to face a harsh reality. To me that makes absolutley no sense.

It's not a matter of a harsh reality being unaceptable, it's a matter that lies always eventually crumble. If god doesn't exist, then there is no "reason" for anything, hence the very continued survival of humanity would only be capable by lying, hence, by now, it logically should have broken down and we should have died out simply from lack of motivation to continue.

Yet we still exist and continue.

Actually, Superchunk really has the right point here. It's one I've argued on numerous times is that Faith and Science dictate entirely different areas, but both are working to explain teh universe, Science the "How" of the universe and religion the "Why"

The things science can prove are only in the category of "how" like explaining how a electrictity stimulates teh electrons in a wire, but resistance creates excess heat and light as the energy is bled off, and that is how a light bulb works. Science can never prove WHY the universe works teh way it does, because by it's own stated limitations, it only deals in teh observable, since God can't be observed, science cannot study god or recognize him as a possible presence as the underlying motivation behind the entire continual function of the universe.

Science will never be able to prove or disprove God, it's like trying to run binary or hex code through your spellchecker. There just aren't any words there to check. Primitive spell checkers would go "hey, there are a couple letters there, but they don't spell any words that I recognize, so they must be spelled wrong", modern spell checkers recognize their own limitations and go "hey, these have numbers mixed in, it's not something I should even be messing with" and so they don't get underlined.

Ultimately, Science is still in that primitive stage.

yep he is out there, and i think all religions have used him as a scape goat to further their own agendas


but that is humane nature, take a square peg and make it fit into a round hole