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Forums - Sales - Sega Sammy's Q2 Results - $105m loss, M&S overtracked by VGC.

English reports

http://www.segasammy.co.jp/english/p...l_20080731.pdf
http://www.segasammy.co.jp/english/p...1q_english.pdf

Japanese reports

http://www.segasammy.co.jp/japanese/...1q_tanshin.pdf
http://www.segasammy.co.jp/japanese/...3_1q_final.pdf

 

Quotes from NeoGAF:

Highlights

- Decrease in sales and posting operating loss of $43 million for pachislot/pachinko,
- Decrease of sales for amusement machines but operating profit of $7 million, which was offset by a $15 million operating loss in amusement facilities,
- Huge increase in sales for the Consumer division ($305 million, a 90% increase year-on-year), but still a operating loss of $41 million - aka sales aren't everything.

Consumer Highlights

- Shipments of Mario and Sonic have topped 7 million (assumed over both platforms), not 10 million as per this thread: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=327805
- Valkyria bombed hard, shipped 147,000 copies
- Iron Man did very well in US/Europe, shipping 1,840,000 copies
- Hulk was also released but there are no numbers

LOL

- Apparently the (ex) Bear Stearns Companies have/had a 1.2% interest in Sega Sammy, JP Morgan (had) 1.5%, probably now 2.7% assuming that wasn't sold off
- Sammy's Pachislot sales share has halved from 40% in 2004 to 20% in 2007 (still market leader).
- No change in full year forecast of $130 million operating profit and $50 million net profit. Good luck guys.

Commentary

Sega Sammy's pachinko/pachislot business isn't doing as well as it used to - it used to hold up everything else. Sega's consumer business hasn't gone anywhere either, but at least its amusement machines is showing a profit. There's a bad sign for original IP on an exclusive platform as Valkyria bombs while the license-generated multiplatform Iron Man sells 1.8 million. Sega's in strife, and it's hard to see where they'd go from here.

 



Back from the dead, I'm afraid.

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Can't open report links...

Any word on how condemned 2 did? Sega seems F'd...



Sega's in strife, and it's hard to see where they'd go from here.


They need to die. I have no sympathy for companies making shitty games like Iron Man or Mario&Sonic.



Kyros said:
Sega's in strife, and it's hard to see where they'd go from here.


They need to die. I have no sympathy for companies making shitty games like Iron Man or Sonic.

Fixed.

 

 

 



The rEVOLution is not being televised

I wonder if ioi will adjust the sales of the games to adjust to this information?



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As far as M&S being 7 million, that comes under the header 'Overseas Sales Were Strong'. So the 10 million still might be accurate if that number excludes Japan Domestic Sales.

Wait I take that back, it does say worldwide accumulated sales.

That being said, I'm not sure if it's really overtracked by too much you include July sales. The VGC total is probably within 10%, which is pretty reasonable.



And Sonic Unleashed will most likely be shit as well but will sell good.



How many cups of darkness have I drank over the years? Even I don't know...

 

I think Sega should just focus mainly on Wii/DS. There games do well there (despite quality sometimes...). Sega just doesn't make quality/compelling games for HD systems and it's a total loss for them.



 

Here is the correct link to the report:

http://www.segasammy.co.jp/english/pdf/whatsnew/2009_1q_english.pdf

And a summary:

http://www.segasammy.co.jp/english/pdf/release/flash_report_final_20080731.pdf



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