NJ5 said: HappySqurriel said:   UMD also outpaced DVD adoption, and look where it is now ... DVD adoption was very slow for the first couple of years because it was only available in very expensive (stand alone) DVD players, and people were reluctant to upgrade to a disc based movie format after Laser-Disc's failure. When people (like myself) started getting DVD players 'Free' when you bought your PC, stand alone players hit $100, and the PS2 was released DVD sales took off at an alarming rate. I'm not sure if it was true, but after Christmas 2001 one of my friends (who worked at futureshop) claimed that stand alone DVD players outsold the PS2, XBox, and Gamecube combined in October, November and December. The fact that many formats can claim to have been adopted faster than DVD at this point in its life has far more to do with them being included in a product that has value outside of being a movie player, and how long it took to get people interested in DVD, then it is about how popular the format is. To make it even worse, it doesn't even seem like this "Blu-Ray outpacing DVD" meme is true. That's what the links I found seem to suggest. According to the last link DVD outpaced HD-DVD and Blu-Ray added together, by a wide margin. It's time to wake up and smell the coffee.

 

It's time for YOU to wake up hater. Says Bluray sold 8 mill as of febuary 2008. 16 mill for dvd from 97-98 but theres only 1 HD TV for every 4 SD TV household. One day you will have an HDTV too bro one day:

 

Mabey just mabey if you wish hard enough HD-DVD will come back.

doesn't matter if the PS3 is the only "bright spot" for Blu ray, because it help shut down HD DVD and is allowing BR to catch on at a faster rate than DVD did......

Those two things together = a good thing, now matter how much you spin it....not even you, starcraft, the master of spin, can make this out to be negative

Leetgeek said: Bluray will not take the crown from DVD as DVD did not take the crown from VHS?

 

QFT

WiiStation360 said: Dno said:   lol at people who say blu-ray isnt that much of an upgrade lol. Those people all have never seen what blu-ray looks like then. Somehow the same people who cannot tell the difference between Blu-Ray and DVD can tell a difference in +5fps or 720 vs 640 vertical resolution in 360 games, when comparing them to PS3 games.

lol

^DVD also managed to enter the market place without a format war. Blu-ray adoption will match the HDTV adoption curve. The studios and manufacturers will push this format in the same way they pushed DVD 9 years ago.

@BMaker11: So you keep repeating the disproved meme? Or do you have some evidence to counter/clarify the links I put above?

@Leetgeek: I already have one, but I'm not buying Blu-Ray the same way I didn't buy HD-DVD. I've seen Blu-Ray movies at TV stores, they look better than DVD but not better enough to make me buy it.

Going from VHS to DVD was great due to discs being better than tapes in so many ways, plus the extra features which DVDs have... Going from DVD to Blu-Ray is just a waste of money as far as I'm concerned. If I had a PS3, maybe I would use it, but as it stands there's no justification for me to waste money on it.

 

Loud_Hot_White_Box said: sparkit34 said: I think people are have just become immune to this new pushed adoption policy by the market.   Which reminds me, I fully expect studios within a couple of years to start releasing the Blu-Ray version earlier than the DVD version, and then with some movies, to release exclusively on Blu-Ray.

 

Earlier -- maybe.  Exclusively -- not for a long time. It took years before movies stopped coming out on VHS.

One factor in favor of BR is that since it plays DVDs, people don't have to change out their old collection (like they did with tapes). So you can keep what you have and buy the new stuff. Ironically, the BR PS3 is backwardly compatable for movies but not games.

 

Mike from Morgantown

@ DMeisterJ

You are of course right and I think most people understand this, but many are just playing ignorant.

It took DVD 6 years to capture a majority share of just movie rentals compared to VHS in leading technology adopting countries like the US and the UK. At the current pacing it looks like the transition will happen faster for the Blu-ray format, but is greatly dependent on HDTV penetration as well, if there's going to be a unforeseen economic decline it could take longer.

MikeB said: @ DMeisterJ Blu-Ray sales are not going to just eclipse DVD in one day or anything like that. You are of course right and I think most people understand this, but many are just playing ignorant. It took DVD 6 years to capture a majority share of just movie rentals compared to VHS in leading technology adopting countries like the US and the UK. At the current pacing it looks like the transition will happen faster for the Blu-ray format, but is greatly dependent on HDTV penetration as well, if there's going to be a unforeseen economic decline it could take longer.

^ How ironic.

 

@ HappySquirrel

IMO UMD and the PSP are doing well. UMD is still supported despite only being used by the PSP.

I think Sony made the right choice to add movie playback for the PSP as an optional feature. It allows for more consumer choice and more mass production of UMD discs, helps to bring production costs down. Better than having UMD only for games as of course standard DVDs are too big in terms of form factor for the PSP.

IMO it was clear UMD wasn't going to take over the market. I already watched many DVD movies on my laptops while on the road and of course the bigger screen is much nicer. But even so, I think it was right to add movie playback support for the PSP, but judging from the many Blu-Ray vs HD DVD arguments, many people have a far more narrow view on these things, if it doesn't become a dominant format it was a failure decision....