| sparkit34 said: I think people are have just become immune to this new pushed adoption policy by the market. |
Which reminds me, I fully expect studios within a couple of years to start releasing the Blu-Ray version earlier than the DVD version, and then with some movies, to release exclusively on Blu-Ray.
Loud_Hot_White_Box said:
The bold is just what I said. Your last sentence is false: true sales should be recorded as true Blu-Ray disc sales, with PS3 recognized as a huge factor helping the sales. |
The Disc sales are terrible per system/ DVD player sold. My sentence is not false, stand alone should be the bulk of the true dvd player sales for the system to be valid to true market. Without that...it makes Blu Ray look really bad. Blu Ray in a videogame system will raise sales only to have a dramatic stop once the gen is over. You better hope that Sony puts Blu Ray in the next Playstation or else their investment will be all for nothing.
Kasz216 said:
I disagree. This can be seen by the fact that Blu-ray Disc sales are pathetically low at this point compared to DVD. At the time the Blu-ray assosiation anounced 11 million in sales, DVD had sold well over 80 million in the United States. 2009 and 2010 seeing steady adoption isn't guranteed, they will ditch HD-DVD but the theatres won't be ditching DVD anytime soon. That's what it would take to get most people to jump i think, cause they don't see the value there. When you take into account economic problems too... you've got to worry. Entertainment is pretty depression proof, however i gotta think there is an effect that balances it more toward "cheaper" entertainment. |
When DVD came out, virtually every main TV in peoples homes could display a better image if they used it. The sound was much better as well. DVD's also will last virtually forever without any degradation.
BD does not have the same huge improvement over DVD. DVD was a major jump over VHS. I don't think Sony, or anyone else, expected BD to do what DVD's did. I do however, feel that as HDTV becomes more mainstream, having a media format that can take advantage of it is welcome in the industry.
BD does a very good job of being that format (HD-DVD would have as well).
TheRealMafoo said:
When DVD came out, virtually every main TV in peoples homes could display a better image if they used it. The sound was much better as well. DVD's also will last virtually forever without any degradation. BD does not have the same huge improvement over DVD. DVD was a major jump over VHS. I don't think Sony, or anyone else, expected BD to do what DVD's did. I do however, feel that as HDTV becomes more mainstream, having a media format that can take advantage of it is welcome in the industry. BD does a very good job of being that format (HD-DVD would have as well). |
I'll make a bet with you that standard DVD sales will still be going strong well past the 2009 date for HD/Digital signal. With the economy in the state that is, theres no way people will support Blu Ray, not that they find reason for a higher def dvd player anyway.
Blu-Ray penetration is happening faster than was the case for DVD, which is highly acclaimed for its unusual fast market penetration (which happened much faster than was the case for the previous very successful adoption of VHS). Of course the PS3 plays a critical role in this.
It doesn't take much research to know the PS3 is one of the best and cheapest Blu-Ray players currently available. More future proof and much more multi-functional, doubling a kick ass games machine and good multi-media platform. Expansions and regular enhancements like Webcams(/PS Eye), PlayTV (DVR functionality), Playstation Home, video store, etc, etc, the potential is very extensive and unrivaled in so many regards compared to rival Blu-Ray players.
| MikeB said: Blu-Ray penetration is happening faster than was the case for DVD, which is highly acclaimed for its unusual fast market penetration (which happened much faster than was the case for the previous very successful adoption of VHS) ==> is it me or the article just stated the opposite ? . Of course the PS3 plays a critical role in this. |
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@ libellule
With regard to the amount of Blu-Ray players out there (including the PS3) and Blu-Ray disc sales that's certainly the case.
Only if you look at standalone players it's not the case, but IMO it doesn't make sense to look at the situation that way as the PS3 is IMO by far the best consumer choice for a Blu-Ray player.
Blu-Ray is still very much for PS3 owners and videophiles.
Even on this site, where many people are tech-savvy, there's no enthusiasm for Blu-Ray. A good upconverting DVD player gives a great image for a much smaller price. Quite ironically, the tech-savvy crowd is the one most likely to be biased against Sony due to their DRM rootkits and some other of Sony's media-related misadventures. They're also the ones most likely to be downloading movies (either legally or illegally).
Until prices go down significantly, Blu-Ray will remain a niche format, especially given the current economic environment. People care more about convenience and price than media quality, this is very obvious when you look at the boom in music downloads.
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It really doesn't matter at this point that Blu-Ray isn't taking off faster than DVD because all the movie studios, retailers, and major electronic manufacturers (including the Chinese) have jumped on board.
I guarantee that many people who say they will "never" buy Blu-Ray will buy it once it reaches price equity with DVD, or when studios start pulling the plug on DVD (through the same means they did with VHS, timed release advantages for Blu-Ray, extra features, etc.).
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@ NJ5
I think there's much enthusiasm for Blu-Ray, according to another research a vast majority of PS3 owners watch Blu-Ray movies.
Of course entry pricing plays a critical role like was the case with regard to the mass adoption of VHS and DVD, I don't think there's anything surprising there.
Compared to VHS and DVD, Blu-Ray without the PS3 probably would have had a harder struggle for adoption as the migration of SDTV to HDTV is still taking place on a massive scale, HDTV penetration is critical for Blu-Ray penetration.
With regard to Sony's media-related "misadventures", I think that the more educated consumer recognizes that Sony's success stories far outweigh any past failures (PS1, PS2, 3.5 inch diskettes, Compact Disc (CD), collaboration for DVD with Toshiba/Philips, etc, etc.
In general Sony has an outstanding reputation for their high quality consumer electronics, no doubt about that. I think in general they are very much at the forefront in terms of general reputation and achievements, ahead of other leading edge companies like Philips, Sam Sung, Panasonic, etc.
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