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perpride said:
Zuhyc said:
wonBokal said:
Leetgeek said:
I think sony will drop the price to $350.

 

I think sony has to drop the price. Including bigger hard drive is good, dropping the price would have sold more.


The PS3 doesn't sell as good as it should not because of it's capacities or games but because of a too high price. 300$/€ should be the maximum price for a basic SKU.

Make an 80gb if you want, but bring back the old 20Gb at 300$ and it will sell well.

Changing the hard drive after really is not a big deal.

 

(I bought my PS3 60Gb at 600€ so it's not a rant of someone who can't afford it)

 

They won't drop the price, Sony has stated many, many times that they want to be profitable. There is a slight chance the price will drop € 50 in Q4 of this year, SCE was profitable in the same quarter last year even with a € 100 price cut. But don't get your hopes up.

Sony does not "have" to do anything. Keep in mind that they are the biggest of the three companies involved in this console war. As such, they have more decision making ability and cannot simply be "forced" into a price drop. The only way I can see that happening is if sales fall even lower and 360 sales keep going up. I'm not sure if that will happen cause I think PS3 sales should go back to normal with the 80 Gig September.

 

 

You missed the "I think" part of the "I think sony has to drop the price." sentence.

Sony has clearly not sold their PS3 as well as they should and hoped. Remember that they are used to sell at a PS1 and PS2 rate. Sales must move ALOT more than back to 30K ahead the 360 in order to be good...



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PS3 undertracked? U dont say



Of course they'll go up.

 



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Sony should release a PS3+LBP bundle these holidays. I think that LBP costs the least to make out of all the 1st party exclusives.



"High" prices of Blu Ray players are sunk costs for PS3, I think sony will drop ps3 prices when BR players prices drop (very probably in 2009), or at least sony keeps BR players prices as a reference for ps3 price.



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I think PS3 sales will increase come September regardless of a new model. Heading into fall with new game releases, and it being a better territory for consumer electronics it should by default see an increase in sales. I would also say anyone who is willing to pay four hundred dollars for a console, and what the movie player function will still pay for it regardless of what price the 360 arcade reaches.

However that does not necessarily lead to defeating Microsoft with world wide sale. The reality is in Japan the console has fallen back on hard times, and the better 360 lineup in the region is going to diminish the divide for at least a few months. For the other regions despite the rejoicing the PS3 is only leading the 360 by twenty three percent as of last weeks numbers. That is good but it is not dominating. The one dominating in Europe is the Wii. Where the console outsold both competitors combined by seventy two percent as of last week. So the fighting ground will remain small, and the margins of victory are really paper tigers in the scope of the world wide console war.

Moving onto North America you find the real story. Everyone equates the higher 360 sales with the fire sale of the old 20gb units. However it shows how critical a price point can be in North America. Microsoft is more likely to tap into a new much larger market with their new low end price, and if Microsoft can maintain supply they will probably be able to maintain much of their current margin. This week the 360 outsold the PS3 by over one hundred percent.

Yes PS3 sales will increase but not with the kind of proportion that 360 sales will increase due to the lower price in North America. Sony already expended their weapon of mass distraction with Metal Gear. Microsoft still has theirs for the holiday season. I am giving Metal Gear the benefit of the doubt that it will actually clear five million within the next year. To put it on par for sales of Gears of War. So Sony had its block buster, and Microsoft is yet to have its block buster. So the got to have that game factor has switched back over to the 360 for the holiday season.

Not only will it reverse for the must have game, but the 360 has a very balanced varied holiday season offering. Four high end titles in four distinct genres. Gears of War, Banjo Kazooie, Fable II, and The Last Remnant. To add on top of the multiple platform titles. So they are casting quite the large net.

I am not thinking massive difference in sales but perhaps thirty percent greater for the 360 especially given how the economy happens to be at the moment. A two hundred dollar console with a rock solid lineup will be a very compelling purchase for the North American consumer, and right now that is the market with the most variance, and better high definition penetration. After all this week the high definition consoles combined outsold the low definition console by seventy percent. So extrapolating forward the North American market is where the console war for the next few months will be settled.

Not in Europe where the 360 is still holding its own, of Japan where both consoles are a sales joke. No in North America where the high definition consoles can fend off the Wii, and make greater sales, and where one of the consoles has hit the proverbial sweet spot. Watch over the coming months it will be all about North America



Think it will moves more units a little also think that if now Microsoft cut the price on all their consoles then Sony will have too.



 

I have a question. What are normal PS3 sales in NA?



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perpride said:
Zuhyc said:
wonBokal said:
Leetgeek said:
I think sony will drop the price to $350.

 

I think sony has to drop the price. Including bigger hard drive is good, dropping the price would have sold more.


The PS3 doesn't sell as good as it should not because of it's capacities or games but because of a too high price. 300$/€ should be the maximum price for a basic SKU.

Make an 80gb if you want, but bring back the old 20Gb at 300$ and it will sell well.

Changing the hard drive after really is not a big deal.

 

(I bought my PS3 60Gb at 600€ so it's not a rant of someone who can't afford it)

 

They won't drop the price, Sony has stated many, many times that they want to be profitable. There is a slight chance the price will drop € 50 in Q4 of this year, SCE was profitable in the same quarter last year even with a € 100 price cut. But don't get your hopes up.

Sony does not "have" to do anything. Keep in mind that they are the biggest of the three companies involved in this console war. As such, they have more decision making ability and cannot simply be "forced" into a price drop. The only way I can see that happening is if sales fall even lower and 360 sales keep going up. I'm not sure if that will happen cause I think PS3 sales should go back to normal with the 80 Gig September.

 

They are not the biggest... They actually are the smallest. Sure their total sales are higher but Microsoft makes much more profit and Nintendo also makes more profit than Sony (the whole Sony).

 



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feico865 said:
"High" prices of Blu Ray players are sunk costs for PS3, I think sony will drop ps3 prices when BR players prices drop (very probably in 2009), or at least sony keeps BR players prices as a reference for ps3 price.

i've been looking around (just because i like talking sales) and stand alone BR players have come down in price.  for instance: this one is $300.

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-BD-P1400-1080p-Blu-Ray-Player/dp/B000TME35W/ref=pd_bbs_sr_3?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1218040407&sr=8-3

with the ps3 no longer being the cheapest blu-ray player on the market some of it's sales are going to be lost.  so the real question...of the ps3 sales to date - how many were buying a ps3 and how many were buying a blu-ray player.