Why is the SDF actually trying to find a way to defend this? Most Sony fans would find a rock to hide under when Sony says something like this.
Why is the SDF actually trying to find a way to defend this? Most Sony fans would find a rock to hide under when Sony says something like this.
Although, I perfectly understand his point, I just wish SCEA and SCEE people would stop having interviews. Just get to making games and marketing your console.
You don't want the granny gamer then advertise to your market and leave Nintendo to make their money.
Hmm, pie.
| scorptile said: @ gramps i understand you fully. they did exclude senior citizens and i think you have the right to be angry. this whole sony pr thing should make lots of people mad. for those that think gramps shouldnt get angry over this. what if sony said that about under 21 gamers? or middle aged gamers? or even the "hardcore" gamers? i think what it is, is that sony is getting more and more upset that they not only lost alot of their customers to the wii but they are losing as much and more money cause of their mistakes and trying to belittle the wii they are thinking maybe they can get alot of people to think like them like they did with the ps1 and ps2. the only difference is the ps3 isnt selling very well and the wii is selling like hotcakes. |
I was thinking you were just being shortsighted, but you are starting to come off as a fanboy. SONY did say "that controller is a non-trivial point" and "Nintendo’s got their thing" so I can't see how that's a bad thing because they are acknowledging that Nintendo is doing a fine job with the Wiimote. Here's what I don't understand about Grampy and how some of you are missing this. Grampy says he buys SONY products. And anyone who has looked into buying SONY products will see that most of their stuff is more expensive that most companys' products. And most those who have bought SONY products while finding that even though they aren't the best they are still better than most competitors. Do you think SONY is targeting towards the poverty and lower income class? No, they usually target those with more disposable income. Are they stopping anyone who are in poverty and in the lower income class from buying their products? Of course not. Whomever they can get business from is always good, but when you create a product, having a target market NEVER excludes anyone. Remember, SONY said "we’re not trying to get the senior citizen group to get into gaming." If they said "we ARE trying to get the senior citizen group to get into gaming," some of you will accuse SONY of forcing senior citizens to buy a PS3 while also claiming that SONY is desperate to not concentrate on "traditional" gamers. For some of you guys a gaming company will never win with you because of the jaded biasness.
Hackers are poor nerds who don't wash.
So... We don't follow profits, we lead losses.
This was once again Sonys shit PR, and if i needed to predict something, i'd predict Malstrom is going to make a blog entry considering the interview (or has he already?), where he points out the mindset, where the disrupted companies try to ignore the blue ocean and how Sony runs into the upmarket. Disruption advances.
Ei Kiinasti.
Eikä Japanisti.
Vaan pannaan jalalla koreasti.
Nintendo games sell only on Nintendo system.
| Onimusha12 said: Why is the SDF actually trying to find a way to defend this? Most Sony fans would find a rock to hide under when Sony says something like this. |
Maybe because this has NOTHING to do with the SDF, but it has EVERYTHING to do with gamers. (When you mentioned "SDF," I though you meant "Super Dimentional Fortress" from Macross, but that is besides the point... :) ) As I mentioned earlier, it's good that the Wii is reaching a broader audience because this helps gaming as a whole. But as a gamer, the functions of the Wiimote does not appeal to me as it has to the broader audience that Nintendo has captured. If this is all that gaming will become for all consoles and developers, then it's time for me to find a new hobby while I'm sure I'm speaking for a number of us. I'm not knocking it, I'm just saying that it's not my personal preference. If anyone can prove to me that there is anything wrong with having a target audience, then I'm wrong. But since gaming console are normally for gamers, then I can't see how I'm not right.
Hackers are poor nerds who don't wash.
Actually it’s not just a case of a cranky old fart reacting to a single disastrous interview. Sony has been an extremely arrogant company for years. They have often tried to use a strong market position to force a standard on the whole industry; sometimes successfully (BluRay) sometimes not (Betamax).
They took their leadership this generation for granted and gave us an overpriced console that offered (IMO) very little real innovation but just pretty eye candy. Whoope do, I had been playing with better graphics than that on my PC for some time. When the whole world didn’t rush out and grab it they have gone completely nuts. They spent so much on the damn thing that they wiped out their entire profits from PS2.
If you’re $5 billion in the red and running third in a three way race it’s time to put away the arrogant crap, but no, they just won’t. The whole tone of the interview was cocky and his mouth was writing checks that their performance can’t cover. It’s time to reach out to everybody, not dismiss 21% of the population that when you include the number of consoles bought at Christmas for the grandkids is HUGE!
Well I’ve just gotten fed up with their arrogant attitudes and this time I found them personally insulting. Besides, at one time Sony offered products that no one else could provide. But in recent years their level of innovation, and to a lesser extent their quality are not what they once were. I can’t think of a single product Sony makes anymore that isn’t matched or surpassed by at least one competitor; almost always at a lower cost. (Whether or not the PS3 is an exception is a religious debate that I won’t go into).
So no, it’s not a question of an old man bearing a grudge, it’s a question of a consumer deciding that he will no longer spend his money to support a company that consistently struts around talking like the own the whole f**king world. This was just the final bit of crap that did it for me.

Watch out soccer moms, Sony doesn`t want you playing the PS3.
Satan said:
"You are for ever angry, all you care about is intelligence, but I repeat again that I would give away all this superstellar life, all the ranks and honours, simply to be transformed into the soul of a merchant's wife weighing eighteen stone and set candles at God's shrine."
shams said:
You seem to be missing the point completely. The games on the Wii are unique because of the controls. Take away the controls, and you take away the Wii itself. What are you really saying? That the Wii is cheaper, and less powerful than the other consoles? Yeah - we know that. Its a disruptive device, which means that it plays by its own rules. Change these rules back to the "conventional" rules, and sure it won't stack up - its not supposed to. |
Did you even read my entire post? Try reading my 2nd paragraph again or even a previous post of mine
You and Rol are just arguing essentially the exact same thing BMaker11 and I are saying. The Wii's success rests with the remote, I fail to see what is so wrong with that statement.
| megaman79 said: Why is it a fad if some people actually use it more often for their own reasons, rather than just for fps, sports or whatever. A fad would die, neither the Wii fit bb, the wiimote or the Wii online appear to be dying anytime soon. |
Because a fad or craze is something insanely popular for a time meaning that the Wii is in the craze effect like the PS1 and PS2 was the last two generations. Each console generation has the console which is the main craze of the industry.
PSP vs DS, DS is the craze or fad for the handheld generation.

