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selnor on 04 August 2008
rocketpig said:
selnor said:
rocketpig said:
selnor said:
Apple. I forgot they existed. lol. If Apple had the majority of the OS market over Windows, then all the viruses would be written for macs. After all why write a virus that will only affect 3% of the internet users out there? Apple take over the living room. LOL

They have as good a chance as any to impact the living room area. They already have the largest infrastructure set up to deliver content.

As for viruses... LOL. There's more to it than 3% of the market. Being Unix-based has a HUGE impact on how virus-prone an operating system is. Combine that with the giant holes in XP, the registry, admin authentication, etc. and you have your reason why XP was so consistently attacked by viruses. MS originally put in no safeguards against them (a simple authentication screen, native to all *nix systems already, would have done wonders) to ease use of the system. Terrible idea.

Simply put, MS really screwed up. That's why there are so many viruses, adware, spyware, etc. out in the wild. Good programmers can always find exploits in a system but with XP, they didn't even have to try. Microsoft left the door wide open for them.

 
Sorry. If Mac OS was market leader then there would be hundreds of thousands of viruses for it. It doesnt matter what is in place. The virus writers would do it easily. Be serious why write a virus that will affect maybe 6 million computers, when you can write one that will affect hundreds of millions. Seriously thats why they Mac systems are clean. Before XP came along Microsoft staff have had a far harder job knowing their systems are targeted by the virus writers. If Virus writers targeted Macs, you would see there faults to. In simple nothing can escape someone who wants to virus you.

 

Like I said, all systems have exploits. The problem is that MS didn't even try to close any of them when they released XP. That was a mistake, which led to disastrous results from 2001-2005 or so. They also have several loopholes still open, their registry system being a main culprit, which is still a huge spyware/adware problem.

If you honestly believe that XP's early virus protection was on par with a *nix system, I don't know what to say other than you're living in denial.

 

 

 No not saying on a par.:) Just saying Macs would be virused if people actually owned them.  main reason is because windows is used more.



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rocketpig on 04 August 2008

Then we agree on that. Flying under the radar definitely helps Apple's case but even if they were market leader, the virus effect wouldn't have been on the scale we saw with XP. Microsoft really screwed up when they went for ultimate ease of use in their operating system during the Internet boom. But, just as there are viruses for other *nix systems, OS X would have had its fair share if their market was larger.




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Pete_Beast on 04 August 2008

Ofcoruse they dominated with authority, they do so because before them no one had thought of a device that supported multi-format songs. Anything before i were MP3's. That isn't the case now with other products though, other products like Operating Systems are already quiet advanced and do their tasks, cellphones too are already quiet advanced, sure, the iPhone hit and it hit BIG but it serves diferent purposes and not everyone can live up to those purposes, I for one would not change my Nokia N95 for the iPhone because I simply like pressing keys and having a 5MP camera, other people are cotnrary to my belief and wouldn't trade their iPhone for my Nokia. In the case of the iPod and say, the Zune, it's different. I would never change my iPod for a Zune and when I ask around, neither would any of my friends and those who HAVE Zunes would rather have an iPod. Hell, the guy who has 3 Zune tatoos bought an iPod classic.

Hitting that type of market in all fields, music, cellphones, operating systems AND music portable devices is really too much to ask and too much to wish for.



dib8rman on 04 August 2008

@rocketpig

I'm not talking about competition I'm talking about how user friendly it was for me.

The post I made dealt with my experience and nothing more.

Your argument is clear as day, I realized I wasn't trying to argue it, I don't argue what I don't know.

I'm comparing OSX based on my experiences with XMB, even if Front Row is marketing wise the software built to compete with XMB I could always say that XMB could get slapped with some apps (Referring to your definition of an OS) and become a contend-able operating system, what would happen if ‘Home’ maintains itself like an online OS using XMB for surface multimedia selection.

But I haven't touched the PC argument in a while and honestly I have no present want to do so. PC guys can do that a heck of a lot better than I can. I’m not even argueing that XMB is competing with Mac OS, I’m saying to me XMB was a lot easier and friendlier to pick up compared to when I tried to pick up Mac OSX.




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pichu_pichu on 04 August 2008

I don't even own an i pod



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rocketpig on 04 August 2008

Okay... I just don't get it. XMB is a vertical navigation interface, more like an iPod menu or sophisticated calculator than it is an operating system. That alone seriously hinders how many options it can have built-in. OS X is a mouse-based system that dwarfs the size and options of XMB with just its bundled apps, let alone the actual operating system.

It's fine to like XMB and not OS X, I just don't see how you can say you "prefer" one over the other. It's like saying I like sushi better than bowling balls. It makes no sense and everybody around you just scratches their head and continues on with their day, quite comfortable in the opinion that you're now bat-shit crazy and that you've probably spent the morning huffing paint in the bathroom.




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dib8rman on 04 August 2008

Thanks for that ad hominem?

How you managed to pull that off I don't know seeing as how I'm just trying to clarify why were talking about two seperate points.

Sure I love eating sushi and your right I'd have to be bat-shit crazy to be munching on bowling balls.

I didn't want to even get to the point of ad hominem... to tell the truth I knew it would get like this, I wanted to clarify over the mailing system so it wouldn't get this ugly.

I have a co-worker who is also a mac fan and yea this will almost always happen. Semantics tends to be the delivery point as well, very, very funny.

I believe I made my point pretty clear by twisting your analogy as I just did.



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rocketpig on 04 August 2008
dib8rman said:

Sure I love eating sushi and your right I'd have to be bat-shit crazy to be munching on bowling balls.

Who said we were talking about eating? Maybe I wanted to go bowling with the sushi. Maybe I was talking about playing guitar or any other random topic.

That's the point. You're bringing up a multimedia interface and comparing it to something entirely different that wasn't even in the conversation to begin with. Comparisons make no sense in this case.

 




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Profcrab on 04 August 2008

I have this bag of apples in one hand and this bag of oranges in the other. How ever will I compare them, Batman?

I give this thread a 9.4.



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Oyvoyvoyv on 04 August 2008
Profcrab said:
I have this bag of apples in one hand and this bag of oranges in the other. How ever will I compare them, Batman?

I give this thread a 9.4.

 

So you really gave me a 4/10? :(

You always give 9 point something, so .4 is fairly bad.

 

Oh, and generally, I'd compare them by weight and, if necessarily, by weight * weight pr Kilo

 



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