Sony or MS from a quality standpoint, from the point of expanding the industry then Nintendo.
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Sony.
Sony made Consoles more than just gaming platfrom.
Microsoft copied it.
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Nintendo, the industry would just become graphics this and graphics that, innovation would become an afterthought.
I say Nintendo I mean if Sony died we would still have Microsoft right?
| Sky Render said: I have yet to see any company besides Nintendo come up with an innovation which has actually remained in use for more than 2 generations. So far, the only development made that they did not pioneer is the "Eye Toy" style camera. Which hasn't caught on nearly as well as things like, say, analog or rumble. Why would Sony or Microsoft innovate? They have no incentive to take that kind of risk when they can just incrementally upgrade. Sony and MS stand to lose a great deal if they opt to take authentic risks instead of just improve on what's already there. Simply improving on what's already there is a very safe move, and guaranteed to work as long as the market doesn't get overshot or stagnant, which is why neither has branched out in any meaningful way. Big companies are noted for this, and for getting knocked off their high horse by the little companies as a result. Even when the entire industry is sinking, big companies will still opt to take the safe route that no longer works. |
online gaming (notably xbox live)
optical storage media
local hard disk media
wireless controllers
montion controllersusb interface
wireless communication
hi-def
are all my ideas of innovating in the vg industry, because they ALL helped to move the industry forward. these aren't just uselss upgrades, they useful features for the user and the maker. they make it easier to make and play games, all of which were thought of and used by the big 3. nintendo didn't think of all this, they also realised that some of those features will help them, and they realised it could be a standard, and they adopted them. i stand strongly by my opinion, nintendo aren't the only ones with ideas. the vg indusrty can survive without them.
now i'm not syaing that nintendo can eff off, because i want them to stay i've owned every nintendo home console except the gamecube so i can't see myself not owning a nintendo console in the near future. but they don't own the vg industry.
Are you guys actually telling me that Microsoft and Sony innovated with the 360 and the PS3? Without Nintendo, the industry would crash much more quickly as the consoles would just reach a point where graphics couldn't improve too noticeably over the last generation.
# of games above 75 on Metacritic (including downloadable):
360: 241 DS: 144
PS3: 152 PSP: 126
Wii: 85
If either Sony or Microsoft left:
1- Companies making HD games would have to quickly restructure to focus almost exclusively on Wii/DS development.
2- As a result of #1, the remaining HD company would be hurt a lot.
If Nintendo left:
1- 3rd parties would lose the DS/Wii cash cows, and would have to ask for bigger moneyhats from MS/Sony in order to survive by making expensive HD games only. If this failed, 3rd parties would have to downsize their studios in order to focus on the huge money-making franchises which can safely make a profit even with the required big budgets.
Based on this analysis, I'd say Nintendo without a doubt.
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| Sky Render said: And what do Achievements actually add to the gameplay experience, besides a Pavlov-like drive to accomplish tasks that the sort of player who values Achievements would still be likely to try to accomplish anyway? Achievements are just giving a name and score to something that gamers have already been doing for years anyway. That's not innovation. That's quantifying a qualitative attribute of core gamers. |
Well, they add to my enjoyment of games, and encourage me to challenge myself. I would never be playing Gears of War in hardcore without achievements, but it is that much more fun this way, and the added reward decreases some of the frustration that sometimes occurs
DOATS1 said:
online gaming (notably xbox live) optical storage media local hard disk media wireless controllers montion controllersusb interface wireless communication hi-def
are all my ideas of innovating in the vg industry, because they ALL helped to move the industry forward. these aren't just uselss upgrades, they useful features for the user and the maker. they make it easier to make and play games, all of which were thought of and used by the big 3. nintendo didn't think of all this, they also realised that some of those features will help them, and they realised it could be a standard, and they adopted them. i stand strongly by my opinion, nintendo aren't the only ones with ideas. the vg indusrty can survive without them. now i'm not syaing that nintendo can eff off, because i want them to stay i've owned every nintendo home console except the gamecube so i can't see myself not owning a nintendo console in the near future. but they don't own the vg industry. |
What do you mean by Wireless communication?
| DOATS1 said: are you honestly trying to say that nintendo is the only company that can innovate? that's a bit ignorant in my opinion. yes, nintendo are THE legends in gaming, and it would cause a load of madness in the vg industry, but in this current day and age, i just don't see the departure of nintendo condeming gaming. maybe it would have back in good 'ol '84, but we're in a different age altogether now. like i said, i think that if nintendo left it would be business as usual. it would also be a great opprtunity for the remaining companies to appeal to a broader market. as long as the other companies have the drive to stand out and innovate themselves, then i think it would be all gravy in the navy for vg. the reason why nintendo innovate, is because like you said, they need to, in order to survive. but so do the other competers, which they will do and have done. you're acting like nintendo are the only ones that bring ideas onto the table, and the rest of them copy, which i highly disagree with. |
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