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NJ5 on 02 August 2008
MakoInfused said:
IMO, i don't care if a game runs at .5 FPS, as long as it looks,runs good.

The human eye doesn't even detect the FPS..so why bother...

Ha... Try playing Mario Kart at 60 fps and then at 30 fps (online split-screen), and you'll see the huge difference. It's very noticeable in fast racing games.

Or if you have a 360, try playing Halo 3 and you'll see slight slowdowns (below 30 fps) in boss fights. GTA4 also has loads of noticeable slow-down at some points.

Honestly, I don't understand why people would believe this "FPS doesn't matter" myth. That's like calling game developers stupid.

 



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thekitchensink on 02 August 2008
MakoInfused said:
IMO, i don't care if a game runs at .5 FPS, as long as it looks,runs good.

The human eye doesn't even detect the FPS..so why bother...

Ummm... mind telling me how it's possible for a .5fps game to run good? XD  The framerate IS how good it runs.

 



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NJ5 on 02 August 2008
thekitchensink said:
MakoInfused said:
IMO, i don't care if a game runs at .5 FPS, as long as it looks,runs good.

The human eye doesn't even detect the FPS..so why bother...

Ummm... mind telling me how it's possible for a .5fps game to run good? XD  The framerate IS how good it runs.

 

Lol, that's a slide-show. This post just goes to show how much most people really know about graphics, let alone enough to do a comparison of two games.

 



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Skeeuk on 02 August 2008
NJ5 said:
Skeeuk said:

killzone 2 has better grafix than gears 2.

i think most people agre to that already apart from a few die hards.


But don't you think people should at least justify their opinions? Otherwise this looks just like a pissing match to see how many fanboys there are in each camp.

 


compare both gameplay trailers thats the best way to look at it. you cant deny that the grafix in killzone 2 are very neat indeed

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NJ5 on 02 August 2008

@Skeeuk: They're "neat", I already said the environments look better than those in Gears of War 2. The characters look worse though (as I said, too few polygons), which makes me think both developers are doing trade-offs on technically similar games.

This is the screenshot where the polygon issue is most visible:

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/890/890010/killzone-2-20080715040131304.jpg

Open it at full size, look at the helmets and legs.

 



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Million on 02 August 2008

This thread is POINTLESS

XBOX sympathisers will say Gears looks better
Sony sympathisers will say Killzone looks better

I say Gears Of War 2 looks exactly like Gears Of War 1 and high end graphics are wested on such boring/unoriginal enviroments for both games.




BrayanA on 02 August 2008
Ghast said:


IGN rates E3


Best Graphics Technology:
Gears of War 2

Developer: Epic Games
Publisher: Microsoft
Release Date: November 2008
Shown at E3 on: X360
Also Coming to: N/A

There were a lot of beautiful looking games at E3 2008, but none held our eye as long as Gears of War 2. Some very deserving titles made our short list, but at the end of the day, it was Epic's uncanny ability to squeeze magic out of the (upgraded) Unreal Engine 3 that wowed us most.

From the updated soft-body physics to the fantastic water effects and realistic cover destruction, Gears 2 reminded us why Tim Sweeney and the tech team at Epic are some of the best in the business. Not only does Gears 2 look pretty in pictures and HD videos, it also runs like a dream. In our lengthy time playing the Horde co-op mode at a Microsoft event at E3, we saw no slowdown, tearing, crashes or hiccups whatsoever. Here's hoping the finished product looks as good on launch day as it did in L.A

Runner(s)-Up:

Crysis: Warhead (PC - Electronic Arts)
Fallout 3 (X360 - Bethesda Softworks)
Killzone 2 (PS3 - Sony Computer Entertainment)

I will go with this!

IGN > 1000 PS3 fanboys opinions

 



BottledSpringWater on 02 August 2008
NJ5 said:

@RainBird:

Resolution is a big "shrug" for me... With my 32'' TV, I honestly don't see any difference between true-HD and upscaled-HD games such as Halo 3 and Ninja Gaiden 2.

I want good framerate above all (after gameplay and all the other non-technical stuff of course). If KZ2 or Gears of War 2 have to slightly lower resolution to maintain a stable 30 fps, so be it!

 

 

 I agree, and according to what I see on vidoes on Gametrailers, KZ2 has much better framerate.

In the E3 Demostration of Gears2, you can literally see the framerate drop plenty of times from cranes falling to grenades and all that.



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Million on 02 August 2008
BrayanA said:
Ghast said:


IGN rates E3


Best Graphics Technology:
Gears of War 2

Developer: Epic Games
Publisher: Microsoft
Release Date: November 2008
Shown at E3 on: X360
Also Coming to: N/A

There were a lot of beautiful looking games at E3 2008, but none held our eye as long as Gears of War 2. Some very deserving titles made our short list, but at the end of the day, it was Epic's uncanny ability to squeeze magic out of the (upgraded) Unreal Engine 3 that wowed us most.

From the updated soft-body physics to the fantastic water effects and realistic cover destruction, Gears 2 reminded us why Tim Sweeney and the tech team at Epic are some of the best in the business. Not only does Gears 2 look pretty in pictures and HD videos, it also runs like a dream. In our lengthy time playing the Horde co-op mode at a Microsoft event at E3, we saw no slowdown, tearing, crashes or hiccups whatsoever. Here's hoping the finished product looks as good on launch day as it did in L.A

Runner(s)-Up:

Crysis: Warhead (PC - Electronic Arts)
Fallout 3 (X360 - Bethesda Softworks)
Killzone 2 (PS3 - Sony Computer Entertainment)

I will go with this!

IGN > 1000 PS3 fanboys opinions

 

IGN = An Opinion

Therfore it cannot be greater than  10000000000000000000000000000000000000000 PS3 Fanboys

You get a technical expert with in depth understanding of graphics in games then it'll mean something.

 




NJ5 on 02 August 2008
BottledSpringWater said:
NJ5 said:

@RainBird:

Resolution is a big "shrug" for me... With my 32'' TV, I honestly don't see any difference between true-HD and upscaled-HD games such as Halo 3 and Ninja Gaiden 2.

I want good framerate above all (after gameplay and all the other non-technical stuff of course). If KZ2 or Gears of War 2 have to slightly lower resolution to maintain a stable 30 fps, so be it!

 

 

 I agree, and according to what I see on vidoes on Gametrailers, KZ2 has much better framerate.

In the E3 Demostration of Gears2, you can literally see the framerate drop plenty of times from cranes falling to grenades and all that.

That's true, I just saw that trailer. If it's not just a video encoding problem or the physics engine fault (for the crane), it's definitely something they should fix.

EDIT - on a second viewing, I'm thinking it may be the physics engine. The rest of the image doesn't seem to stutter like the crane movement, but it's hard to judge.

 



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