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BenKenobi88 on 28 June 2007

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BenKenobi88 on 28 June 2007

One Piece doesn't interest me at all...I guess it does look pretty kiddy.

I'm not a huge anime person...I like a few and haven't seen most...but I really liked Death Note...it wrapped up nicely, unlike a few animes I've seen that just go on and on forever...I lose interest.



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diamuerto on 28 June 2007
Shido said:

thanks Diamuerto for explaining that, I downloaded a english subbed version(and my english is not that perfect) while I always download the spanish subbed version but I was too excited to wait. I haven't watched One piece but when I have time I will check it, have anyone seen an anime called "ergo proxy"?.


Yeah, I'm watching ero proxy.  Right now there is a lot of anime on all of a sudden.  I'm already watching adult swim for stuff like Blood+    Then a couple of weeks ago, Fuse tv plays Tenjou Tenge and Ergo Proxy on Fridays, and Sci-Fi plays Noein, Tokko, and Macross Plus on Mondays.  Good stuff, I have plenty to watch now that death note is over. I'll get naznatips in a second...



Shido on 28 June 2007

Here we have a channel called "Animax" but you have to paid for it, so I watch all the anime in the PC, but right now I'm playing more VG than watching anime.



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diamuerto on 28 June 2007
naznatips said:
diamuerto said:
naznatips said:
diamuerto said:

Nope, not overrated. I don't think in any way One Piece is better than Death Note. I've seen the subbed version of One Piece and I feel we have enough never ending anime action/comedy shows already. Too many dbz inspired shows for my taste. Macross Plus is on sci-fi channel on monday nights. Don't know if that has to with the show your talking about, but it's good to.


One Piece is NOTHING like DBZ. It's nice to have an anime like One Piece with a sunny style, real humor, characters that don't DEM (I'm soooo tired of this), and *gasp* character development that doesn't include the typical "bad boy" hero.


What's DEM? And if your referring to Death Note with the typical "bad boy" hero, it's anything but typical.


Deus ex Machina. It's when something ridiculous constantly happens to save the character. Like every time he is about to die he suddenly becomes massively stronger (ala Super Saiyan) or he magically trains up to super strength in a couple days to beat an enemy who should far outclass him. There are a lot more but these standard anime plot devices are practically nonexistent in One Piece. Luffy's powers remained unchanged for 270 some episodes, and he had to figure out more creative ways to use them, and develop his OWN skills, rather than rely on random transformations to save himself. Even when he does finally get a form of transformation (the Gears) they are really just a new way to use the abilities he already had. And, yes Light fits the typical anime hero pretty well, though in general Death Note isn't too bad about sticking to athe overused anime plot devices.

Edit: I'll give you that luffy shares some characteristics with Goku, but is a much better developed personality.  Limited character development is a downfall of many animes, DBZ especially. 

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Well Light depends on his own brain skills the whole time. Just like One Piece, there is not random huge transformation except for when he actually decided to start killing.  After that it's him using his smarts in different situations to escape capture.  I don't know if you've seen the whole thing, but in the end this actually leads to his demise.  I also thinks Light doesn't follow the standard anime "bad boy" hero.  For one thing, he's not actually the hero.  I don't see many anime's who have a sociopath as there protagonist main character.  Most of the time people are rooting for L, or for Light to die(Not meXD).  I'd go as far to say Light IS the bad guy in the show, not your typical hero when he is considered a mass murderer.
I also think shows that run as long as One Piece (Naruto/Bleach/DBZ) as good as they are, come across flawed all together.  Don't get me wrong, I really like Naruto and so on, but filler seasons and repetitive story lines will kill me sometimes.


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BenKenobi88 on 28 June 2007

We're meant to pity Light anyway...

I didn't like Near...he didn't seem to have a heart.



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naznatips on 28 June 2007
diamuerto said:
 
SPOILER BELOW
Well Light depends on his own brain skills the whole time. Just like One Piece, there is not random huge transformation except for when he actually decided to start killing. After that it's him using his smarts in different situations to escape capture. I don't know if you've seen the whole thing, but in the end this actually leads to his demise. I also thinks Light doesn't follow the standard anime "bad boy" hero. For one thing, he's not actually the hero. I don't see many anime's who have a sociopath as there protagonist main character. Most of the time people are rooting for L, or for Light to die(Not meXD). I'd go as far to say Light IS the bad guy in the show, not your typical hero when he is considered a mass murderer.
I also think shows that run as long as One Piece (Naruto/Bleach/DBZ) as good as they are, come across flawed all together. Don't get me wrong, I really like Naruto and so on, but filler seasons and repetitive story lines will kill me sometimes.

Yeah, I saw the whole thing (and read the manga), and like I said Death Note isn't too bad about sticking to a formula.  Light is still the protagonist, despite his dark nature.  The protagonist doesn't have to be on the SIDE of good, just has to be the main focus of the story.  And yeah, One Piece's only major flaw is a cyclical story line, though that cycle can be adjusted quite a bit (as happened in the last arc). 



diamuerto on 28 June 2007

I'm one of those fans who say, all hail kira. Problem with Near is he was 1/2 of L. Mello was the other half.



Shido on 28 June 2007

I liked L, he was too damn smart, I also liked Mello because he likes chocolat(like me).  Light is not a normal main character, you can be by his side or not; I don't know many animes that have this characterictic(I really don't know any) that why I liked Death Note a lot.



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diamuerto on 28 June 2007
naznatips said:
diamuerto said:
 
SPOILER BELOW
Well Light depends on his own brain skills the whole time. Just like One Piece, there is not random huge transformation except for when he actually decided to start killing. After that it's him using his smarts in different situations to escape capture. I don't know if you've seen the whole thing, but in the end this actually leads to his demise. I also thinks Light doesn't follow the standard anime "bad boy" hero. For one thing, he's not actually the hero. I don't see many anime's who have a sociopath as there protagonist main character. Most of the time people are rooting for L, or for Light to die(Not meXD). I'd go as far to say Light IS the bad guy in the show, not your typical hero when he is considered a mass murderer.
I also think shows that run as long as One Piece (Naruto/Bleach/DBZ) as good as they are, come across flawed all together. Don't get me wrong, I really like Naruto and so on, but filler seasons and repetitive story lines will kill me sometimes.

Yeah, I saw the whole thing (and read the manga), and like I said Death Note isn't too bad about sticking to a formula.  Light is still the protagonist, despite his dark nature.  The protagonist doesn't have to be on the SIDE of good, just has to be the main focus of the story.  And yeah, One Piece's only major flaw is a cyclical story line, though that cycle can be adjusted quite a bit (as happened in the last arc). 


Ok... but you said "bad boy" hero.  You also said DEM....so were you talking about Death Note or animes in general?

And another reason I find Death Note intriguing is the actual confrontations.  It's more like a drama than typical action anime's that are so popular.