Your point isn't realistic. Any project that has no returns would be discontinued. People say HD games are so expensive to make so companies would go bankrupt. Why would they even take on the project in the first place if they weren't sure of generating a profit?

If they could only make profits from releasing casual games thats what they'll release. Casuals tend to not do any research and buy games by the box cover thats why many casual titles sell irregardless of how bad they are. Companies don't have the luxury of releasing HD crapware because they would most likely take a loss

Squaresoft back in the ps1 gen had almost nothing but hardcore titles yet they were making lots of profit (at least before the dumb movie). What gives? Many devs don't have the talent to make games that are very good hence casual is the way to go because they'll buy your games--good or bad so there's no real risk.

Good for Nintendo.

Gamers who want to play something other than Nintendo games still have to buy a 360 or even PS3 because these are the platforms where the 3rd parties release most of their content despite Nintendo's dominance.

I'll let ya go for this one due to ignorance.

Otherwise comparing this gen back to the Ps1 gen is simply stupid.  What he's saying is AAA core games this generation cost millions of dollars and take lots of time to develop.  So for 2-3 yrs you are pouring in money to something that generates no revenue.  Too keep this going you need other projects to succeed on the market.  Most of thise has been compensate by ports and "casual" games.  Why?  They are cheap to make, have short development time(less than a year), and sell well due to being mainstream titles. 

Thus this is what keeps core titles from breaking companies.  It's not saying that their core titles won't sell, just that to keep a lot of those titles going they need revenue from these other games.  Especially from companies that aren't EA, Activision, and Ubisoft.

I don't get how this responds to my post.

You see, you're proving my point. As the CEO of a company, if you don't have the budget to take on a project, why would you even undertake the project in the first place? If they couldn't release a HD titel without the support of tons of casual abominaware, then they shouldn't undertake the project because its biting off more than they can chew.

This is the answer. You don't get what Ninendo is doing.

Then what is the point your trying make if you indeed had one to begin with. 

The only point I'm trying to make is due to the userbases of PS360 not growing as fast as the 3rd party devs would have liked and the resentfulness of putting those core titles on the Wii, that they need to make numerous outside ports and casual titles to fund the titles going to those platforms.  At least the smaller devs.  If the Wii had failed and the DS had failed and the PS360 were still in the same situation its not like the games wouldn't come out its just there would be a lot more efficiency and thought put into what kinda games would release.  Would be a much tighter market.

So melodramatic.

Don't worry so much. As long as the games you like keep selling, somebody will keep making them. Though perhaps not in the quantities you would like, but who gets enough of the games they want, anyway?

Just because Mommy and Daddy have a new baby doesn't mean they don't love you anymore.

Yea why do people continue to think with the influx of "casual" games that the rest of the market will simply die. Stop being so fucking paranoid. Those kinds of games still sell a lot more than the majority of casual games. They aren't going anywhere. Nintendo hasn't stopped making them so I doubt anyone else will. Geez I swear some people say all that just to create a false sense of alarm. Ya know if ya yell bomb in an airport its illegal. I think this should be as well.

Ugh.

I hope most publishers aren't trying to choose between making "casual" and "hardcore" games, since neither exist.

Nintendo's big games this past quarter were Mario Kart Wii, which obviously can be played by both long-time gamers and new gamers, and Wii Fit, which, despite being called "casual" is not a downmarket title at all, but rather the upmarket of the new market established by Wii Sports and Play.

Pretty much every western publisher has a Wii Sports 2 type game on the market right now, and pretty much all of them are selling well. What's going to happen though, of course, is this market segment is going to become oversaturated, and then Nintendo will take it over anyways with Wii Fit and Wii Sports Resort, because those games offer new experiences and don't treat the customers like retards. Anyone focusing on, say, Game Party 3 or Sports Party 2 as the lynchpin of their "casual" efforts, will see their sales slowly drop and their costs rise as they try to compete.

If publishers keep going out to "follow Nintendo's lead," and basically make the dumbed-down sequels to Nintendo's games, they're just going to slowly oversaturate the new markets Nintendo has exposed, but never get in on the growth part of the curve. Publishers need to try and CREATE the new segments, like FF7, RE1+2, GTAIII and EA's Sports titles did over the last 2 gens.

On DS, third parties aren't quite there yet, but they've done the next best thing. After oversaturating the "brain game" and "pet sim" segments, they're now providing games like Guitar Hero, Grand Theft Auto and Dragon Quest. Although these games don't create new markets, they do focus on markets which have been underserved on DS, which will make them the best selling third party DS games yet.

And that example of EA's 40 games for Wii and DS... Ugh. Show some evidence. At launch, EA said they had 30 PS3 games in development. ( http://www.gamespot.com/news/6160151.html ) Those must have all been "casual" too.

Actually, a lot of the increase in development for DS and Wii from EA is from bringing all the sports titles over to Wii, and from a whole slew of DS/Wii exclusive Sim games, including MySims Kingdom, MySims Party, SimAnimals, SimCity Creator, and so far, Spore. There's also the Hasbro games and some other "casual" titles, of course, but it's actually three of four divisions, the Casual, Sims and Sports divisions, which are all selling out to Wii and DS.