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mancandy on 27 June 2007
JHawkNH said:
My question is will this be available to the general public (ie I can program my own games and submit them to Nintendo) or will it only be available to development studios?

Not very likely. I don't think Nintendo wants users to be posting malicious software or indecent content. I am sure that the games must be also be rated by the ESRB. Developers must also pay for development kit and licensing fees.



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Blones on 27 June 2007

Sounds awesome, can't wait till it launches.



Bodhesatva on 27 June 2007

The games do need to be rated by the ESRB, and having them rated is the responsibility of the developer.

You need a developer kit to make games for the Wii -- but it's my understanding that Nintendo's developer kit is much much cheaper than the ones for the PS3 and 360.

Other than that, it's absolutely free form. Make your own games, submit them to the ESRB, then give them to Nintendo. Done. Nintendo decides on pricing, checks for bugs, then puts them up -- it's as simple as that. Nintendo does not ffilter anything but AO rated games. This is AMAZING news for independant developers. It's the most improtant thing to come out of this news I think: Nintendo, in one fell swoop, just got every little developer and wanna be programmer on their side.

Link: 

http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/levelup/archive/2007/06/27/reggie-on-his-big-plans-for-a-little-nintendo-wiiware.aspx



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Celb on 27 June 2007

just where to will you download these game to ???



DonWii on 27 June 2007

NOT ON A HARD DRIVE, for now:

http://www.nintendowiifanboy.com/2007/06/27/nintendo-waves-away-hard-drive-rumors/

More than likely, it will be announced at E3, and not sooner.



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FishyJoe on 27 June 2007

Opening up the system to independent devs should be interesting. I can't wait to see what kind of unique ways people will find to use the control system.



Entroper on 27 June 2007
shams said:

So Nintendo's "XBLA" will be called WiiWare - sort of lame name IMO.

Here's hoping we see a lot more of this in the future.

...

(so is this the name of a "developer" program, or the distribution system? or both?)

Now they just need to announce a publically available SDK... for PCs - and preferably for the Wii as well ;) If they release a decent development "package" for the Wii (coupled with a keyboard) it could be a huge hit. It would be nice...

 


Check out Nintendo's developer application web site.

Basically, "Tier 2" is the tier for small startup companies that haven't published games before.  The page says they'd start contacting Tier 2 devs in June, so it makes sense for them to announce Wii Ware now.

The cost of an SDK is roughly $2,500, and it looks like you can spend up to $10,000 on development equipment from Nintendo if you have that kind of money.  Honestly, $2,500 is dirt cheap for a mainstream console SDK.  It would be interesting to hear from a Tier 2 developer and see what you get in the basic package, and what you can spend additional money on.



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KruzeS on 27 June 2007
I don't get the people that are all worried about space. Do you really need to have access to 25+ games at the same time!? Once you fill it up, guys, which most people won't, ever, just get an SD card, a 2GiB one. Or a 4GiB, as some actually work. That's another 100-200 games per card.

This is all at Virtual Console sizes, but that's not fair, right? Wrong. Even if the size limit was 100MiB a game (much too high, Microsoft's is/was at 50MiB), you're still in for 50-100 games on average, without even getting your butt off the chair to change the card. And after all these games, you can always exercise your ass and buy more cards or, even better, backup stuff to your PC.

This is supposed to be for the little games, people. Flash/Shockwave/Java like little games. Notice how the 26 titles from Data Design Interactive & Conspiracy Entertainment Corporation are all supposed to be boxed. WiiWare will be smaller than that, you hear me? Much, much smaller.

Plus, once and for all, understand one thing: you are not the average gamer. The average gamer is not going to buy 50 games, or be worried that they have to backup some 2 year old games to make room for new ones.

Reality has a Nintendo bias.
thetonestarr on 28 June 2007
Hawk said:
thetonestarr said:
I'd rather appreciate being able to have one folder in which I'd store all my Internet channels (Shop Channel, Internet Channel, Everybody Votes! Channel, Forecast Channel, News Channel), then another folder for my NES VC games, SNES VC games, etc.

I personally use the four pages to separate the different categories. Right now I have the first page as all my VC Games, the second for miscellaneous channels, and the fourth for 'I'm not sure why I bought this' games, heh.


 Yeah, but for those of us that fill all four pages...



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thetonestarr on 28 June 2007
Hawk said:
thetonestarr said:

Now that WiiWare is under way, and they've got well over 100 VC games released, there's going to be a LOT of people quickly filling their 512 mB of space. I WANT TO STORE STUFF ON MY STINKIN' SD CARD AND STILL BE ABLE TO PLAY IT WHILE IT'S ON THERE, NINTENDO, DANGIT!

And, do you REALLY need to be able to play more than a max of 47 VC games at a time? (minus the disc channel and various other channels you may have). If you get an SD card, you get PLENTY of room to get all the games you want. You just have to do a little memory management. I don't see the problem really, that you can have dozens of games avaliable at a time.


 Maybe because it's a bother to have to swap it out back-and-forth on your SD cards?

 I really don't know why you're actually defending a weaker menu setup. There are NO benefits behind Ninty keeping it the way it is, for gamers at least. Zero. Not one.

 It's common sense, mate. They should fix it. Period. It's not a difficult update to program, definitely not a major update to download, and it's insanely convenient.



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