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^^^ I still don't see why SF4 isn't on the Wii in some form. SFII sold 6.3 million on the SNES. I know some Nintendo people still like the Street Fighter series. Just use the Classic Controller and sell a SF skin for it.

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OT: The CEO didn't know the Wii would be this good. So, he's doing something about it. Win over the 'core' by publishing some indie games or putting effort into something besides the casual stuff. That market will get saturated with minigames and Badminton Ballaz soon enough. Where's the Racing games at. Many genres are ripe for the taking.



Leatherhat on July 6th, 2012 3pm. Vita sales:"3 mil for COD 2 mil for AC. Maybe more. "  thehusbo on July 6th, 2012 5pm. Vita sales:"5 mil for COD 2.2 mil for AC."

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You seem to imply that EA CEO is saying that the only way forward for major developers is to invest massively on the Wii.

Ubisoft and Activision beg to differ..

EA isn't only suffering from badly allocated resources. It's suffering from a huge lack of creative talent and new IPs in the last years...
But it's probably easier to blame the lack of vision from the previous management team than to admit internal weakness....

Truth is EA hasn't pumped out a new franchise able to sell 10 millions+ units accross all medium in a long time and the madden cash cow is starting to get old...

They have a few titles that they hope will get there ( Spore) but nothing mind-blowing at this time...

They missed the band-wagon on MMOs too and as time pass the likelyhood they will catch up diminishes :

-Word of mouth on WarHammer really isn't that great

- Age of Conan ( not connected to EA but was the latest big Hyped MMO supposed to challenge WOW) is quickly fading away and loosing subscribers.

- Meanwhile Wow added 1.7 millions new subscription in the last 12 month( with no expansion coming during that time) and now stands at 10.9 millions subscribers less than 6 months from the release of a new expansion that will help boost the number of subscribers again..( Most likely Wow will be above 12 millions subscribers within 1 year).

Fact is the EA ship really isn't doing that well and you can't blame it all on not going to the Wii but as a new CEO it's just easier to blame the previous team, making the shareholders believe that the worse is past...

 

The shareholders look at Wow, CoD4, Guitar Hero, GTA4, Sonic and Mario at the Olympic games and then they look at what EA released in the same time and no amount of CEO sweettalking is going to make them happy....



PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !

PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !

FishyJoe said:
Pristine20 said:
FishyJoe said:
Pristine20 said:
So this thread implies that the ps2 gen should never have ended because there were more profits and dev costs were lower right? I blame M$ lol!

Nope, it's the admission of the EA CEO that they did not properly allocate development resources because they failed to recognize the market leader.

 

I actually wasn't referring to the OP. It was the trend of the subsequent posts.

You gotta admit though, it really all depends on the kind of game being developed. No one can argue that activision is extremely happy with their "gamble" on PS360 with COD4 after 10 mil copies. Does anyone really think that a wii version of that game could've generated more profit than just the 360 version by itself?

Yes, because COD5 is coming to the Wii.

 

I can bet all my assets that cod5 won't see profits anywhere close to cod4 and PS360 will definitely topple the wii version. hell the 360 version would definitely topple the wii version by iteself. I'm not too sure about the ps3 version doing any good because of the sheer amout of 1st/2nd party shooters in the same time period. All ps3 owners I know would take R2 over cod5.

 



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Kyros said:
July 19th saw about 900k in third party software for Wii. 1.25 million on 360 and PS3 was 850k


Yeah but as far as I have seen the third party sales are predominantly

Party games like Carnival, Raving Rabbids,
Music games like Guitar Hero, Rock Band
and some sport games.

So if EA comes to the same conclusion and we all know how high EA values quality in games, the more hardcore Wii owners won't be very happy with stronger EA support.


Primarily "party games" like Resident Evil, Star Wars, Sonic and Red Steel (showing the desparation of Nintendo Fans for an FPS if you ask me).

I have a question though...

 

Why do people always act like "party games" and "music games" don't count? Or are always low quality?

 

Nielsen shows that more hours are being spent by people playing what many of the "spend more time on forums than playing" gamers consider to be nongamers.

 



I would cite regulation, but I know you will simply ignore it.

SaviorX said:
^^^ I still don't see why SF4 isn't on the Wii in some form. SFII sold 6.3 million on the SNES. I know some Nintendo people still like the Street Fighter series. Just use the Classic Controller and sell a SF skin for it.

Annoying PSP guy:"COLLECTIBLE!"

OT: The CEO didn't know the Wii would be this good. So, he's doing something about it. Win over the 'core' by publishing some indie games or putting effort into something besides the casual stuff. That market will get saturated with minigames and Badminton Ballaz soon enough. Where's the Racing games at. Many genres are ripe for the taking.

 

 But the "nintendo people" aren't as many as you think. They may be omnipresent in these forums but not so much in the real world. By "nintendo people", I mean people who supported them through n64 and GameCube not those who just jumped in with the wii bandwagon. I hope we share the same description.



"Dr. Tenma, according to you, lives are equal. That's why I live today. But you must have realised it by now...the only thing people are equal in is death"---Johann Liebert (MONSTER)

"WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives"---Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler

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Kyros said:
Yes, because COD5 is coming to the Wii.


yes but COD5 is developed by Treyarch and will suck as much as CoD3 . We will see which platforms are supported by the next Infinity Wards game.

Not like IW would have much say in the matter, as Activision would be the one influencing the platforms. IW just jumps through hoops and waits eagerly for its master's next command so it can be rewarded, just like every other dev linked to a publisher.

 



Kyros said:
Yes, because COD5 is coming to the Wii.


yes but COD5 is developed by Treyarch and will suck as much as CoD3 . We will see which platforms are supported by the next Infinity Wards game.


COD3 was a rushed game, they have been developing COD5 for a long time now.

8 months vs 2 years:

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=30536

 



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You have to take into account revenue and profit.

If EA had a 20% decline in revenue, but a 20% increase in profit, their stock would take a massive plunge.



bumidan said:
You have to take into account revenue and profit.

If EA had a 20% decline in revenue, but a 20% increase in profit, their stock would take a massive plunge.

 

I doubt it ... I have seen countless companies close unprofitable divisions (which will result in lower revenue and higher profit) and the second the announcement is made their stock tends to rise very quickly.



1. A cheap game is cheap to you... one mans garbage can be another mans treasure.

2. Low budget games are made low budget and are expected to sell to at least see profit, that's the purpose of any product and no one does something they can't afford unless they are insane or Microsoft.

3. @ - "Finally a third party that takes the Wii seriously" How many times are people going to say that, the best thread I've seen in a while dealing with this social hot spot was from Steve; about what people really expected from E3.

4. High Budget - I lol'd to a past article about Hells Gate and Flag Ship Games going under. Developers just followed suite not because they wanted to just make HD games but because they knew publishers would want it. Remember developers get paid anyway so it's the publisher who has to like money. (Not reffering to development firms.)

5. Value - Shooters are dumb and require no skills, it's just point and shoot using two analog sticks which is pointless and gimmicky but some how the gimmick cought on and now right analog is for looking around and the left is for moving. Shooters are for idiots. But now they are the mainstay genre and people love them and say stuff like they are immersive. The genre has value now and blar, but no matter what - in the content of section 5, shooters were for idiots and had no value.



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