NJ5 said: GooseGaws said: NJ5 said: DON'T buy a Plasma. Plasmas use a lot more electricity than LCDs, and energy prices are increasing a lot. It's very possible prices will get even worse, you will want to have as few energy-guzzlers as possible in your house. Power usages vary wildly between makes and models; some LCDs use virtually as much power as plasmas at the same screen size. Really, if someone is buying a $2000 TV, they can probably afford a few extra watts to power it. Every LCD vs Plasma comparison I've seen gives a significant advantage to LCDs in terms of power consumption. If you have any links saying otherwise, please post.

I'm not disagreeing that LCDs are generally more energy efficient.  I'm saying that deciding a purchase of a 42" television based on power usage is silly.  A HDTV is a luxury item to begin with; nobody needs one.

 

GooseGaws said: I'm not disagreeing that LCDs are generally more energy efficient.  I'm saying that deciding a purchase of a 42" television based on power usage is silly.  A HDTV is a luxury item to begin with; nobody needs one.

It doesn't matter whether the initial cost is high or not. I know that most people buying HDTVs can probably afford the power. The problem is that the added power will keep on biting throughout the lifetime of the TV (especially when you considering ever-increasing power costs).

Furthermore I'd say the ecological impact should also be taken into account, as most countries still rely on fossil fuels for a big part of their electricity production. That's coal, oil and natural gas (incidentally, the ones which are causing the increases in power costs).

 

Sony certainly dont make the best TV's. Panasonic do. Look at reviews online, Panasonic TV's are the nuts. And yes Plasma is better.

NJ5 said: GooseGaws said: I'm not disagreeing that LCDs are generally more energy efficient. I'm saying that deciding a purchase of a 42" television based on power usage is silly. A HDTV is a luxury item to begin with; nobody needs one. It doesn't matter whether the initial cost is high or not. I know that most people buying HDTVs can probably afford the power. The problem is that the added power will keep on biting throughout the lifetime of the TV (especially when you considering ever-increasing power costs). Furthermore I'd say the ecological impact should also be taken into account, as most countries still rely on fossil fuels for a big part of their electricity production. That's coal, oil and natural gas (incidentally, the ones which are causing the increases in power costs).

Outside of the ecological issue, it's still a question of perceived value.  Even though a plasma may use more power than an LCD, the superior picture quality is worth that small extra cost to me.  Most people aren't going to walk into a store and ask for the HDTV that uses the least power; they're going to want the one with the best (or perhaps biggest) picture.  RPTVs use less power yet than LCDs, but I would never buy one.

 

GooseGaws said: NJ5 said: DON'T buy a Plasma. Plasmas use a lot more electricity than LCDs, and energy prices are increasing a lot. It's very possible prices will get even worse, you will want to have as few energy-guzzlers as possible in your house. Power usages vary wildly between makes and models; some LCDs use virtually as much power as plasmas at the same screen size.  Really, if someone is buying a $2000 TV, they can probably afford a few extra watts to power it.

Actually the average LCD today with the LED or CFL lamps use considerably less power than a plasma. My LCD 32" uses about 120 Watts(though the specs say 180...I can't figure that out) of electricity though that's not the only thing you should note. You can figure out electric consumption through a mathematical equation using Amps and Watts. I forget the exact equation but I use a device called Save-a-watt that monitors electrical use through outlets.

At random, I took specs for two 42″ plasma sets; a Panasonic model is rated at 395 watts, and an LG model at 329 watts. Two 42″ LCD sets selected at random are a Sharp model rated at 247 watts, and an LG model rated at 210 watts.

Edit: My mistake the figure is
Voltage(volts) x Current(amps) = Wattage.
Wattage (Power) x Time = Energy Use (watt hours) then you take the energy use
watt-hours per day x (1 kilowatt/1000 watts) = kilowatt-hours per day
kilowatt-hours x your electric companies price and you can figure your energy bill

souixan said: GooseGaws said: NJ5 said: DON'T buy a Plasma. Plasmas use a lot more electricity than LCDs, and energy prices are increasing a lot. It's very possible prices will get even worse, you will want to have as few energy-guzzlers as possible in your house. Power usages vary wildly between makes and models; some LCDs use virtually as much power as plasmas at the same screen size.  Really, if someone is buying a $2000 TV, they can probably afford a few extra watts to power it.     Actually the average LCD today with the LED or CFL lamps use considerably less power than a plasma. My LCD 32" uses about 120 Watts(though the specs say 180...I can't figure that out) of electricity though that's not the only thing you should note. You can figure out electric consumption through a mathematical equation using Amps and Watts. I forget the exact equation but I use a device called Save-a-watt that monitors electrical use through outlets. At random, I took specs for two 42″ plasma sets; a Panasonic model is rated at 395 watts, and an LG model at 329 watts. Two 42″ LCD sets selected at random are a Sharp model rated at 247 watts, and an LG model rated at 210 watts. Edit: My mistake the figure is Voltage x Current = Wattage. and then Wattage (Power) x Time = Energy Use

If your parents are paying the Electricity bill it does not matter.

 

BenKenobi88 said: Just don't get a DLP...they often have a slight delay, making most games have a little bit noticeable lag, and music games impossible.

 

 ?? whats this DLP ?

NNN2004 said: BenKenobi88 said: Just don't get a DLP...they often have a slight delay, making most games have a little bit noticeable lag, and music games impossible.    ?? whats this DLP ?

Those giant screens they actually project the image onto the screen from the rear. The thing is Plasma and LCD even have scaling chips which produce a lag in the image, the major difference is LCD' and plasmas have Game mode which turn them off in order to cut lag out I'm not sure if DLP does or does not have this.

souixan said: GooseGaws said: NJ5 said: DON'T buy a Plasma. Plasmas use a lot more electricity than LCDs, and energy prices are increasing a lot. It's very possible prices will get even worse, you will want to have as few energy-guzzlers as possible in your house. Power usages vary wildly between makes and models; some LCDs use virtually as much power as plasmas at the same screen size.  Really, if someone is buying a $2000 TV, they can probably afford a few extra watts to power it.     Actually the average LCD today with the LED or CFL lamps use considerably less power than a plasma. My LCD 32" uses about 120 Watts(though the specs say 180...I can't figure that out) of electricity though that's not the only thing you should note. You can figure out electric consumption through a mathematical equation using Amps and Watts. I forget the exact equation but I use a device called Save-a-watt that monitors electrical use through outlets. At random, I took specs for two 42″ plasma sets; a Panasonic model is rated at 395 watts, and an LG model at 329 watts. Two 42″ LCD sets selected at random are a Sharp model rated at 247 watts, and an LG model rated at 210 watts. Edit: My mistake the figure is Voltage(volts) x Current(amps) = Wattage. Wattage (Power) x Time = Energy Use (watt hours) then you take the energy use watt-hours per day x (1 kilowatt/1000 watts) = kilowatt-hours per day kilowatt-hours x your electric companies price and you can figure your energy bill

 

 i dont care about power and i dont have problem with power consume but i need the one with the best picture quality .... the problem that i want high a resolution and a 0 pixel response so can i have it in one TV ?

NNN2004 said: i dont care about power and i dont have problem with power consume but i need the one with the best picture quality .... the problem that i want high a resolution and a 0 pixel response so can i have it in one TV ?

Yes. With a Panasonic plasma.

http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/panasonic-viera-th-50pz800u/4505-6482_7-32886472.html?tag=pdtl-list

Also available as a 42".