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colonelstubbs on 27 July 2008

Graphics shouldnt be the be all and end all of games. Gameplay is more important



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Fishie on 27 July 2008
ssj12 said:

With all the talk going around, and the Kojima thread, I figured I would take time to state my view on what "realistic graphics" is.

My take is that they theme of a game doesnt have to be realistic or that a game even needs to have a real-world color pallet. I believe that games will have more definition to the characters. Each character will have its own weight, abilities, motion, and feel. The game could be as simple as an anime or as drawn as Okami but textures will be well placed and high-quality.

Kojima talked about how how the backgrounds of the next generation will be alive. I believe this is a good way to think. If you shoot a grenade into the distance,it shouldnt just blow up on an invisible wall, it should continue flying and maybe hit a tree and blow it up and start a fire. With that fire something comes along, mattering the game, and puts it out in real-time. Resistance 2 with the battleships is a great start since they are far in the distance but they slowly fly across the screen.

Realism doesnt have to mean real. Take a Final Fantasy game, there is no way a summon would be real but could anyone imagine Crysis level graphics attached to FFXIII. It would be basically be equal to a CG movie. As long as a game feels real then its a realistic game.

Which is of course bullshit.

A game much like a movie doesnt need realistic graphics, what it needs is a believeable world and suspension of disbelief.

In the movie world that is why a movie like Toy story beats out realistic yet uncanny valley crap like FF The spirits within.

You dont need quality textures either(mind you its not like MGS could be acused of having those) since textures much like the enviroments need to be believeable within the framework of the game rather then as real as possible.

 

Creating a game where everything comes to life would not be fun since stuff would be happening with the player not knowing which caused what.

 



Fishie on 27 July 2008
Mr.Y said:

This thread really isn't about graphics.. it appears to be about physics, various kinds of simulations, and the level detail put into a game. Title is kinda misleading.. but yeah I don't know about all that.. adding all those little details would probably take a lot of time to put in.

 

 Nah, this thread is more Kojima wank by ssj12.

Its not about graphics or physics or whatever, its another one of those where he can mention Kojima and agree with whatever it is Kojima said.



konnichiwa on 27 July 2008
Fishie said:
Mr.Y said:

This thread really isn't about graphics.. it appears to be about physics, various kinds of simulations, and the level detail put into a game. Title is kinda misleading.. but yeah I don't know about all that.. adding all those little details would probably take a lot of time to put in.

 

 Nah, this thread is more Kojima wank by ssj12.

Its not about graphics or physics or whatever, its another one of those where he can mention Kojima and agree with whatever it is Kojima said.

 

QFT!






HappySqurriel on 27 July 2008

Personally, I would rather have low detail graphics with a high quality and unique art style than highly detailed graphics of a dull and generic art style ... The sad thing is that most of the games people proclaim have the "Greatest Graphics" also have the most generic and boring art styles.



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Baddman on 27 July 2008
konnichiwa said:
Fishie said:
Mr.Y said:

This thread really isn't about graphics.. it appears to be about physics, various kinds of simulations, and the level detail put into a game. Title is kinda misleading.. but yeah I don't know about all that.. adding all those little details would probably take a lot of time to put in.

 

 Nah, this thread is more Kojima wank by ssj12.

Its not about graphics or physics or whatever, its another one of those where he can mention Kojima and agree with whatever it is Kojima said.

 

QFT!

 

 i second that



ssj12 on 27 July 2008

So let me guess, pricks, if I didnt use Kojima's example of real-time backgrounds you guys wouldnt be on the edge of getting banned like fishie. My god you people are immature little whiners.

"Waaaa he used Kojima as an example Waaaa he must be a major kojima fanboy waaaaa can't understand what an example is waaa"

honestly you people are just whiny little pricks.

 

edit: this is honestly very amusing to you people try to get to me. Its a joke.



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Relias on 27 July 2008

But my only question would be.... What good is realistic graphics if the gameplay sucks?? I think you need alot more then realistic graphics. Like good AI, controls and stuff. Although it would be nice to play an RPG and have somebody say WTH taking so long??? Hey chosen one get your but in gear and save the world already... Instead of repeating the same dialog over and over....



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