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konnichiwa on 26 June 2007
redspear said:
konnichiwa said:
RolStoppable said:
konnichiwa said:

Is it me or are there not so good PC exclusives anymore :(.

On topic UPDATE: Sony says the rumor isn't true.

http://blog.wired.com/games/2007/06/opinion-if-sony.html


It's you. Crysis is real.


 Crysis   and  ????  W_W The only game that I maybe want and that I know that is only for PC.

Oblivion with proper settigns looks way better than the PS3 version.

 


 True but it is not exclusive for the PC!






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MikeB on 26 June 2007

@ naznatips

Why? As someone who complains about graphics, that seems like a horrible plan. The PS2 was the weakest console LAST generation, would you really want to play games worse looking than Wii games with worse motion sensing tech that 3rd parties would never waste their time making games for? I'm sorry but this just seems completely illogical from any angle other than "I don't like it when Nintendo does it but if it's Sony it's okay." And no, the Wii is not the same strength as the PS2. It's in fact superior to the Xbox in GPU and CPU, and offers quite a few new effects that the Xbox wasn't capable of.


You have skipped on reading my comments then, I have bought quite a few PS2 games for my PS3 despite never owning a PS2. I also use emulators on my PC and PS3 to play classic games.

And not only graphics matter to me, but audio and game complexity (this is broad, ranging from larger worlds to potentially better AI) as well.



Naughty Dog: "At Naughty Dog, we're pretty sure we should be able to see leaps between games on the PS3 that are even bigger than they were on the PS2."

PS3 vs 360 sales

redspear on 26 June 2007
vizunary said:
I just wanted to interject that motion controls are not the best for ALL games, and until virtual controls are available we'll still see plenty of game pad, sticks, etc...

It takes practice but this is exactly what people said about the analog stick for the 64...OMGz how do I play SF 2 with that. However what you will most likely see is combination similiar to what nintendo has down. Once developers mindsets about games change than you will see the improvements in traditional genres. MP3 will be the first test for FPS like controls(Even if Metroid Prime isn't really a shooter and more of an FPA)



gorgepir on 26 June 2007
MikeB said:
@ RolStoppable

The horsepower of every console is a concern if you want to play the most impressive games, if you are solely talking about graphics. If you want to play the most impressive games you have only one choice: the PC.


No, I choose the PS3 just like I choose the Amiga when they were more powerful.

I understand that you may not believe me when I say how powerful the PS3 really is when the SPEs are fully used (new games engines, which take some time to be developed compared to just porting existing engines). But I think with due time this will change.

I do own a PC though which runs Half-Life 2 pretty well, but with the PS3 out I don't plan to upgrade it for many years to come.

If you really like power you should sell your PC and PS3 and choose a powerful PC instead. Console can't be upgraded, as much as you like the cell to be powerful and hope that the SPEs get fully used, they will be easily dwarfed by a PC. And whenever your PC does not live up to expectations, just plug in an extra RAM or upgrade your graphic card.

Talking about PS3 power (and xbox360 and specially wii for that matter) compared to a PC is useless in my opinion.



konnichiwa on 26 June 2007

Oh yeah MikeB

Sony also said that an PSP redisgn was not true and now we know it was true.
So you maybe can hope to see it on E3.






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redspear on 26 June 2007
konnichiwa said:
redspear said:
konnichiwa said:
RolStoppable said:
konnichiwa said:

Is it me or are there not so good PC exclusives anymore :(.

On topic UPDATE: Sony says the rumor isn't true.

http://blog.wired.com/games/2007/06/opinion-if-sony.html


It's you. Crysis is real.


 Crysis   and  ????  W_W The only game that I maybe want and that I know that is only for PC.

Oblivion with proper settigns looks way better than the PS3 version.

 


 True but it is not exclusive for the PC!


Does it have to be exclusive though? seriously it just has to be on the system. Not all PC games are graphic centric Starcraft 2 won't WOW people in terms of graphics but it will control great and have plenty fo effects and have a higher rez than any console game.



naznatips on 26 June 2007

Crysis alone has already been stated to be far beyond the PS3's capabilities by Crytek. Why on earth do you think the PS3 to other systems is even close to what the Amiga could do back in the day? The Amiga wasn't passed up for years, the PS3 has been passed up before it's a year old. If you were really committed to complex AI, Graphics, and great sound quality you would have just skipped this console generation entirely. There is a lot more to gaming, and you aren't going to find anything but an extra graphical step that is already out of date from the PS3 and 360. I want a PS3 and 360, but it's not because of "OMG TEH AWESOME GRAPHICS." If Crysis is already out of PS3 range imagine how far ahead PCs will be in 2 years... 5 years... 10 years (It's supposed life cycle)



konnichiwa on 26 June 2007
redspear said:
konnichiwa said:
redspear said:
konnichiwa said:
RolStoppable said:
konnichiwa said:

Is it me or are there not so good PC exclusives anymore :(.

On topic UPDATE: Sony says the rumor isn't true.

http://blog.wired.com/games/2007/06/opinion-if-sony.html


It's you. Crysis is real.


 Crysis   and  ????  W_W The only game that I maybe want and that I know that is only for PC.

Oblivion with proper settigns looks way better than the PS3 version.

 


 True but it is not exclusive for the PC!


Does it have to be exclusive though? seriously it just has to be on the system. Not all PC games are graphic centric Starcraft 2 won't WOW people in terms of graphics but it will control great and have plenty fo effects and have a higher rez than any console game.


 Of course not but if you want good games this days you are a lot better of with a console.






MikeB on 26 June 2007

@ naznatips

The Amiga wasn't passed up for years, the PS3 has been passed up before it's a year old


Actually most early Atari ST ports to the Amiga were slightly inferior. This changed when games developers started to develop their game engine with Amiga's strengths in mind (multiprocessing using the custom chips, several dedicated processing chips handling game tasks simultaneously, the CPU mainly used to direct such processing, similar like the PPE in the PS3 should ideally be used for which is currently not the case for most PS3 games).



Naughty Dog: "At Naughty Dog, we're pretty sure we should be able to see leaps between games on the PS3 that are even bigger than they were on the PS2."

PS3 vs 360 sales

your mother on 26 June 2007
konnichiwa said:
 

Of course not but if you want good games this days you are a lot better of with a console.

Doesn't this depend on the type of game you are playing?

RTS: Consoles (as of yet) can't hold a candle to the PC (exception: Full Spectrum Warrior)

Tactical FPS: Consoles get "arcade-y" tactical shooters while their PC counterparts are much more slow-paced and realistically... tactical. Case in point: Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter

FPS in general: The sheer volume of quality FPS on the PC are more than all FPS on all consoles combined.

Flight Simulations: PC is the only way to go.

Simulations in general (tank, helicopter, submarine, etc): Consoles don't even offer this genre; hence, the PC is your only choice.

Tycoon games: This genre is virtually unheard of on consoles. You want to test your (simulated) business acumen? Forget the consoles, the PC is where it's at.

Gaming preferences vary. I for one love the aforementioned genres (except RTS - getting too old to micromanage so many things going on at light speed like Warcraft III) but the only way I am ever going to play my Simcity 4 is on a PC; same with my Civilizations, Caesars and Railroad Tycoons. And of course, where am I going to get my game on with Counterstrike? It sure as hell ain't gonna be on the Xbox!

The PC has its inherent qualities, just like a console, and the PC has many quality games that, while they may or may not be technically possible on a console, the fact remains that many genres aren't even ported to consoles at all. That's why I get my game on with consoles and PCs - just depends on what I feel like playing. Both consoles and PCs are outstanding entertainment devices.