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Squilliam on 26 July 2008

Bolded is better on Xbox360 red shows an advantage to the PS3. So if I bolded the resolution its better on the Xbox360 or the AA etc. It kinda shows a trend doesn't it?

Playstation 3

Army of Two = 1280x720 (no AA) 1.3Gb
Assassin's Creed = 1280x720 (QAA)
Beijing 2008 = 960x720 or 768x1080 (no AA)
Beowulf = 1280x720 (no AA)
Call of Duty 3 (screenshot) ~1088x624 (2x AA)
Condemned 2 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Conflict: Denied Ops = 1280x720 (no AA) or 960x1080
Dark Sector = 1152x640 (no AA) 1.2 GB
Devil May Cry 4 = 1280x720 (2xAA, temporal) 4.83 GB
Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion = 1280x720 (no AA) 5+GB
Fifa Street 3 = 1920x1080 (no AA)
Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter 2 = 1280x720 (NOAA)
Golden Compass = 1280x720 (no AA)
Grand Theft Auto IV = 1152x640 (no AA) (26.4FPS with no screen tearing) 3.3 19.5million pixels per second rendered.
GB Guitar Hero 3 = 1040x585 (no AA)
Juiced 2: Hot Import Nights = 1280x720 (QAA)
LEGO: Indiana Jones = 1280x720 (no AA), 960x1080 (no AA)
Lost Planet = 1280x720 (temporal 2xAA)
MX vs ATV (demo) = 1024x576 (no AA)
NBA Street Home court (screenshot) = 1920x1080 (no AA)
NFL Tour = 1280x720 (no AA, poor framerate)
Overlord = 1280x720 (no AA)
Pro Evolution Soccer 2008 = 1280x720 (QAA)
Quake Wars: Enemy Territory = 1280x720 (no AA)
Race Driver: GRID = 1280x720 (2xAA) (28.49 FPS with 30% torn frames!)
SEGA: Superstars Tennis = 1280x720 (QAA, 30fps)
Siren = 1024x512 (4xAA) (SUB SD??!?!?)

Skate = 1280x720 (no AA) 2.6 GB
Soldier of Fortune: Payback = 1280x720 (no AA)
Tony Hawk's Proving Ground (demo) = 1024x576
Top Spin 3 = 1280x720 (QAA)
Virtua Fighter 5 (screenshot) = 1024x1024 (no AA) 2.34GB
1024x768 en mode 1080p
UEFA Euro 2008 = 1280x720 (no AA)

Xbox 360

Army of Two = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Assassin's Creed = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Beijing 2008 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Beowulf = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Call of Duty 3 (screenshot) = 1040x624 (2xAA)
Condemned 2 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Conflict: Denied Ops (demo) = 1280x720p (2xAA)
Dark Sector = 1280x720 (no AA)
Devil May Cry 4 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion = 1024x600 (2xAA) - Same for GOTY Edition!
Fifa Street 3 = 1920x1080 (4xAA)
Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter 2 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Golden Compass = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Grand Theft Auto IV = 1280x720 (2xAA) (30.46 FPS with 4% torn frames) and 28million pixels a second rendered.
Guitar Hero 3 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Juiced 2: Hot Import Nights = 1280x720 (2xAA)
LEGO: Indiana Jones = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Lost Planet = 1280x720 (up to 4x MSAA dependent on framerate)
MX vs ATV = 1280x720 (no AA)
NBA Street Home court (demo) = 1920x1080 (4xAA)
NFL Tour = 1280x720 (4xAA, 60fps)
Overlord = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Pro Evolution Soccer 2008 = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Quake Wars: Enemy Territory = 1280x720 (2xAA + blur)
Race Driver: GRID = 1280x720 (4xAA) (30FPS Locked no screen tearing)
SEGA: Superstars Tennis = 1280x720 (2xAA, 30fps)
Skate = 1280x720 (2xAA )
Soldier of Fortune: Payback = 1280x720 (4xAA sometimes)
Tony Hawk's Proving Ground = 1280x720
Top Spin 3 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
UEFA Euro 2008 = 1280x720 (2xAA)

Virtua Fighter 5 (demo) = 1024x1024 (4xAA)



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Sqrl on 26 July 2008
selnor said:
Sqrl said:
BMaker11 said:
selnor said:
And peoplesay that the 360 couldnt do better or keep up with the PS3 in graphics. LOL bu bu bu bu the CELL.

KZ2 > Gears 2

Uncharted > Gears 1

 

Try reading the forum rules:

Do not post only that Item A sucks, or that Item B is better than Item C. Give reasons why, post links to documented problems, of screenshots, or whatever you can. Similarly, do not reply to other posters with "you're wrong." Explain why you disagree, and perhaps point to the correct answer.

@Selnor,

Drop the flamebait or exit the thread.

 

How Am I flaimbaiting in a Microsoft thread?

If my last post was read by you, you would notice a rovided valid points from E3. And how come when the Ps3 fanboys come to M$ forum and tout what they are saying it's ok. Do you see me in the Sony forums stirring?

 

The forum doesn't make a difference, your comment was clearly intended to mock PS3 owners/fanboys and that is flamebait, period.

Your intervening post is irrelevant, you violated a rule and I notified you of this fact as a warning.  If you don't continue the pattern then we have no problem. If you do..well I think you know what happens if you do.

As for your complaint about other violations I think we both know this is simply a deflection of the issue. But just the same, like I tell everyone else, if you see a poster violating the forum rules then report it.  Complaining about it later when you're getting in trouble is pointless.

 
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selnor on 26 July 2008
Sqrl said:
selnor said:
Sqrl said:
BMaker11 said:
selnor said:
And peoplesay that the 360 couldnt do better or keep up with the PS3 in graphics. LOL bu bu bu bu the CELL.

KZ2 > Gears 2

Uncharted > Gears 1

 

Try reading the forum rules:

Do not post only that Item A sucks, or that Item B is better than Item C. Give reasons why, post links to documented problems, of screenshots, or whatever you can. Similarly, do not reply to other posters with "you're wrong." Explain why you disagree, and perhaps point to the correct answer.

@Selnor,

Drop the flamebait or exit the thread.

 

How Am I flaimbaiting in a Microsoft thread?

If my last post was read by you, you would notice a rovided valid points from E3. And how come when the Ps3 fanboys come to M$ forum and tout what they are saying it's ok. Do you see me in the Sony forums stirring?

 

The forum doesn't make a difference, your comment was clearly intended to mock PS3 owners/fanboys and that is flamebait, period.

Your intervening post is irrelevant, you violated a rule and I notified you of this fact. If you don't continue the pattern then we have no problem. If you do..well I think you know what happens if you do.

As for your complaint about other violations I think we both know this is deflection of the issue. But just the same, like I tell everyone else, if you see a poster violating the forum rules then report it. Complaining about it later when you're getting in trouble is pointless.

 


Point taken, I apologise for any misconduct, and will edit my original post. :)

 

Edit: Post is edited.

 

 



blackstar on 26 July 2008
Squilliam said:

Bolded is better on Xbox360 red shows an advantage to the PS3. So if I bolded the resolution its better on the Xbox360 or the AA etc. It kinda shows a trend doesn't it?

Playstation 3

Army of Two = 1280x720 (no AA) 1.3Gb
Assassin's Creed = 1280x720 (QAA)
Beijing 2008 = 960x720 or 768x1080 (no AA)
Beowulf = 1280x720 (no AA)
Call of Duty 3 (screenshot) ~1088x624 (2x AA)
Condemned 2 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Conflict: Denied Ops = 1280x720 (no AA) or 960x1080
Dark Sector = 1152x640 (no AA) 1.2 GB
Devil May Cry 4 = 1280x720 (2xAA, temporal) 4.83 GB
Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion = 1280x720 (no AA) 5+GB
Fifa Street 3 = 1920x1080 (no AA)
Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter 2 = 1280x720 (NOAA)
Golden Compass = 1280x720 (no AA)
Grand Theft Auto IV = 1152x640 (no AA) (26.4FPS with no screen tearing) 3.3 19.5million pixels per second rendered.
GB Guitar Hero 3 = 1040x585 (no AA)
Juiced 2: Hot Import Nights = 1280x720 (QAA)
LEGO: Indiana Jones = 1280x720 (no AA), 960x1080 (no AA)
Lost Planet = 1280x720 (temporal 2xAA)
MX vs ATV (demo) = 1024x576 (no AA)
NBA Street Home court (screenshot) = 1920x1080 (no AA)
NFL Tour = 1280x720 (no AA, poor framerate)
Overlord = 1280x720 (no AA)
Pro Evolution Soccer 2008 = 1280x720 (QAA)
Quake Wars: Enemy Territory = 1280x720 (no AA)
Race Driver: GRID = 1280x720 (2xAA) (28.49 FPS with 30% torn frames!)
SEGA: Superstars Tennis = 1280x720 (QAA, 30fps)
Siren = 1024x512 (4xAA) (SUB SD??!?!?)

Skate = 1280x720 (no AA) 2.6 GB
Soldier of Fortune: Payback = 1280x720 (no AA)
Tony Hawk's Proving Ground (demo) = 1024x576
Top Spin 3 = 1280x720 (QAA)
Virtua Fighter 5 (screenshot) = 1024x1024 (no AA) 2.34GB
1024x768 en mode 1080p
UEFA Euro 2008 = 1280x720 (no AA)

Xbox 360

Army of Two = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Assassin's Creed = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Beijing 2008 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Beowulf = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Call of Duty 3 (screenshot) = 1040x624 (2xAA)
Condemned 2 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Conflict: Denied Ops (demo) = 1280x720p (2xAA)
Dark Sector = 1280x720 (no AA)
Devil May Cry 4 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion = 1024x600 (2xAA) - Same for GOTY Edition!
Fifa Street 3 = 1920x1080 (4xAA)
Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter 2 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Golden Compass = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Grand Theft Auto IV = 1280x720 (2xAA) (30.46 FPS with 4% torn frames) and 28million pixels a second rendered.
Guitar Hero 3 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Juiced 2: Hot Import Nights = 1280x720 (2xAA)
LEGO: Indiana Jones = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Lost Planet = 1280x720 (up to 4x MSAA dependent on framerate)
MX vs ATV = 1280x720 (no AA)
NBA Street Home court (demo) = 1920x1080 (4xAA)
NFL Tour = 1280x720 (4xAA, 60fps)
Overlord = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Pro Evolution Soccer 2008 = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Quake Wars: Enemy Territory = 1280x720 (2xAA + blur)
Race Driver: GRID = 1280x720 (4xAA) (30FPS Locked no screen tearing)
SEGA: Superstars Tennis = 1280x720 (2xAA, 30fps)
Skate = 1280x720 (2xAA )
Soldier of Fortune: Payback = 1280x720 (4xAA sometimes)
Tony Hawk's Proving Ground = 1280x720
Top Spin 3 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
UEFA Euro 2008 = 1280x720 (2xAA)

Virtua Fighter 5 (demo) = 1024x1024 (4xAA)

 

 question : are these numbers and stuff are everything about graphics?? are they the only things that count?



Squilliam on 26 July 2008

@ Black star - just shows that the Xbox360 runs games a bit better in those games. Obviously its not everything like whether you prefer how one is rendered or the other. Hehe.



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blackstar on 26 July 2008
Squilliam said:
@ Black star - just shows that the Xbox360 runs games a bit better in those games. Obviously its not everything like whether you prefer how one is rendered or the other. Hehe.

 

 okkay , thanx :)



Sqrl on 26 July 2008
selnor said:
Sqrl said:

The forum doesn't make a difference, your comment was clearly intended to mock PS3 owners/fanboys and that is flamebait, period.

Your intervening post is irrelevant, you violated a rule and I notified you of this fact. If you don't continue the pattern then we have no problem. If you do..well I think you know what happens if you do.

As for your complaint about other violations I think we both know this is deflection of the issue. But just the same, like I tell everyone else, if you see a poster violating the forum rules then report it. Complaining about it later when you're getting in trouble is pointless.

 


Point taken, I apologise for any misconduct, and will edit my original post. :)

 

Edit: Post is edited.

 

 

 

Thank you. I must say, your reaction is actually quite refreshing.

 
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selnor on 26 July 2008
Sqrl said:
selnor said:
Sqrl said:

The forum doesn't make a difference, your comment was clearly intended to mock PS3 owners/fanboys and that is flamebait, period.

Your intervening post is irrelevant, you violated a rule and I notified you of this fact. If you don't continue the pattern then we have no problem. If you do..well I think you know what happens if you do.

As for your complaint about other violations I think we both know this is deflection of the issue. But just the same, like I tell everyone else, if you see a poster violating the forum rules then report it. Complaining about it later when you're getting in trouble is pointless.

 


Point taken, I apologise for any misconduct, and will edit my original post. :)

 

Edit: Post is edited.

 

 

 

Thank you. I must say, your reaction is actually quite refreshing.

 

 

No Probs. I'm not here to sell 360 ( that is M$ job)

I obviously dont hide the fact that I prefer the 360, but I dont mean to aggrevate. The world has to much hate anyhows.



Staude on 26 July 2008
Jlmadyson said:
BMaker11 said:
selnor said:
And peoplesay that the 360 couldnt do better or keep up with the PS3 in graphics. LOL bu bu bu bu the CELL.

KZ2 > Gears 2

Uncharted > Gears 1

 

Gears 2 is so much more impressive than K2 at this point and it would seem IGN agrees.

If you know anything about tech you would know that your statement was false. Killzone has managed to create a complete atmosphere. Gears of war looks good don't get me wrong. I'll even say it looks great, but it doesen't touch killzone 2.

 

@ squiliam .. we all know that many of those games looks better on the ps3 nomatter what their resolution is. Its common knowlage that GTA, BURNOUT Paradise, DMC and oblivion looks better on the ps3. It only seems like you highlighted oblivion though.


In the end as someone else said, it does in many ways come down to personal preference. That's how it's gonna be in the future aswell (i would expect)



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Zim on 26 July 2008

So Staude KZ2 has managed to have a complete atmosphere? In the world of KZ2 though it seems mostly everything is indestructable.

Gears is doing more enemies on screen, destructable environments etc.

My biggest disappointment with GoW was actually the environments not being destructable, didn't feel next gen. I have the same annoyance with any other shooter where environments are immune to damage. Why make realistic graphics if the world you place them in is then completly unrealistic?

I agree with others that Crysis Warhead should have beat GoW2 though.



Turkish says and I'm allowed to quote that: Uncharted 3 and God Of War 3 look better than Unreal Engine 4 games will or the tech demo does. Also the Naughty Dog PS3 ENGINE PLAYS better than the UE4 ENGINE.