Rare will most likely release all of their n64 titles on xbla in key ways, banjo tooie will probably come after they see how these do, perfect dark will come along when pd2 is coming, and the more obscure stuff might see something too.

According to the current word on the goldeneye fiasco, nintendo of america and MS had worked out a deal that it would be fine to release the goldeneye remake on xbla in return for something else, but nintendo of japan stepped in and forced the project to be halted.

From Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rare_(company)

Up from the end of 2000, people from Activision and Microsoft visited Rare. In November 2001, Microsoft trademarked the name It's Mr. Pants, the name of a game which was released three years later. In September 2002, the Stamper brothers sold their 51% interest in Rare to Microsoft; following this, Nintendo sold their 49% stake in the company as well. Microsoft paid a total of $377 million for the company. Because of this, Rare is now a first-party developer for Microsoft's Xbox and its successors. This left Donkey Kong Racing, which was due to be released for the Nintendo GameCube, unreleased, though how much more had been completed of the game than the pre-released video is not in the public domain. The trademarks of the characters from the games that Rare made for Nintendo consoles (such as Conker of Conker's Bad Fur Day and Banjo from the Banjo-Kazooie series) were retained by Rare (apart from intellectual properties originally developed by Nintendo, i.e. Donkey Kong and Star Fox). Despite the acquisition, Rare still developed games for Game Boy Advance, and now develops for the Nintendo DS, as Microsoft is currently not participating in the hand-held video game console market. Rare has never developed for Sony platforms.

Basically, since the game is an original Rare IP and Microsoft owns Rare, there is no problem with it going on XBLA -- though it will be funny that it seems the N64 logo will be present.

Bond was a license owned by Nintendo and not a Rare IP. That is how Nintendo could quash that apparently. Of course, why Rare doesn't substitute the graphics and make a Perfect Dark game out of it is beyond me.


Mike from Morgantown

So you're saying Activision doesn't have a say in this even though they own the Bond license? I thought Nintendo lost the license to EA and EA then lost it to Activision, making it Activision's decision to allow GoldenEye. Am I wrong?

That's true but Nintendo supposedly stopped/threatened Activision so they're not allowing it. It's a wonder you didn't see all the articles about it. Nintendo of America was cool with it but Nintendo of Japan wasn't. Perfect Dark was better than Goldeye anyway so I don't see why they just don't port that. I still have the original and play it from time to time. Laptop Gun FTW!!!

I read through these forums, so I come across a lot of misinformation. Just in this topic alone, and others just like it, people seem to think Nintendo has a say in the Banjo-Kazooie IP, which it seems they don't. That's pretty lousy of Nintendo to hold this back from coming out. Perfect Dark is a good substitute if they get the online up and running, otherwise i'll stick with the N64.

Microsoft owns the Banjo IP...  That's why Nuts and Bolt is going to be the way it is...

No it's like that because rare wanted it to be, rare has been left to do as they please more or less, aside the delays of kameo and pdz to the 360 if i recall.

lol Rare doesn't need Nintendo's permission to put their own damn games on the marketplace. There was no deal with Nintendo regarding Banjo to release on the live arcade. If it were to appear on the VC then Nintendo would need to work out a deal with MS. Don't you read the news?

exactly, any IP developed by rare is RARES property and nintendo can NOT put them on the vc, don't you think nintendo would have done it by now considering donkey kong country and the like?

The only IP in question is goldeneye due to the fact nintendo had the license at the time, rare just made it, rare does not own it not and MS never bought it, so they can't do it without permission from multiple companies.

But as for things like jet force, banjo, conker, etc, that's microsofts, nintendo makes no deals for these in any way unless it's a deal from microsoft to allow them on the nintendo platform.

Rare doesn't even publish their own games on nintendo portables, thq usually handles it.