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Squilliam said:

The Cell as a CPU considered in its own right is more powerful than the Xbox360s Xenon, there can be no denying that simple fact. The point of this thread is to prove the Xbox360s architecture as taken as a whole – CPU + GPU + Memory and architecture along with its programming environment and tools is simply superior to the PS3 and its architecture.

 

The Xbox360 provides varying levels of extra AA, resolution and superior frame-rates over the equivalent PS3 versions. This shows at a base level, that often when the PS3 and Xbox360 games are created, there is at least a little extra performance left over for the Xbox360 to create a slightly better game experience by this metric.

 

To appreciate the key differences between the architectures we should look at the games which we have the most data on, GTAIV and Race-Driver: GRID.

 

The Xbox360 renders 28million pixels per second compared to 19.5 million on the PS3 when comparing them with GTAIV. This is a game that runs sophisticated AI code in an open world environment with the PS3 and the Xbox360 versions being coded by separate teams to extract the best performance possible from both architectures. In this game the Xbox360 code runs faster than the PS3 version while maintaining a higher AA level and resolution. This shows in my opinion that the Xbox360 architecture benefits from the greater available ram and superior GPU more than the PS3 benefits from its HDD install and Cell CPU.

 

Race Driver: Grid is another case where the Xbox360 is able to produce both better visuals without screen tearing and a higher AA level while delivering a superior frame rate. This game did not have the high budget of the GTAIV example, and it certainly does not have the budget of Gran Turismo 5. It does show that when given a set budget for a game, developers giving their best efforts can produce a better result on the Xbox360.

 

This isn’t about theoretical performance, this is a direct comparison between the architectures and the only fair way to compare the differences between the Xbox360 and the PS3 is to remove all other variables bar the ones being measured. Exclusive games cannot be used to determine the worth of an architecture because there is no control and such comparisons just boil down to subjective opinions. I excluded Blu-Ray vs DVD-ROMs because the optical medium does not effect how well games run. From the ease of programming to the more accessible CPU the Xbox360 is truely the superior architecture for creating games.

Do you realise how pointless this thread is? :s This topic comes up again and again and again in different forms and shapes. Same thing being argued slightly differently. VG Charts is starting to become a fanboy haven. Aren't the mods meant to control how many times a topic is repeated :s

 



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Of course you are talking about the current games, yes?



PSN ID: T_Gears

End of 2009 ltd sales:

Wii = 67-68m

X360 = 38-39m

PS3 = 34-35m

Prediction: The PS3 will surpass the 360 on weekly sales after it drops to $299 on all regular weeks (no big releases).

EdGuila said:
Squilliam said:
EdGuila said:

That is based on processing only. If you take a look at PS3 as a system vs 360.

You forgot that fact that the PS3 includes a Bluray player (Does it make games run faster?!!?), WiFi (This relates to what exactly?), rechargble-sixaxis-rumble controller(vs rumble only) (Ditto), makes 1/3 the noise, free online which has %80 of the features Live has (Still doesn't make the games run better on the PS3), no over priced propritary accessories (Still doesn't do anything for the games) and the ability for PS3 gamers to play %80 of the games 360 gamers do and then play a further %18 that they don't get:Gears, Viva Pinata, Mass Effect, BioShock etc on their PCs(same cannot be said for 360 owners and MGS4, Uncharted DF, Rachet and Clank, GT5 not avalible for PC) This isn't a comparison about what you get in a bundle or how much you like Blu ray vs DVD, this is a game architecture comparison.

 

 

The title is PS3<360.  Meaning everything about the PS3 is inferior than the 360.  You are just comparing processing.  I alluded to this in the first line of my post. 
"That is based on processing only. If you take a look at PS3 as a system vs 360."

 There should be an asterik in the title (*processing power only, not entire system vs entire system like the title says)

A car is more than its engine and a game console is more than its processor. I was talking about the whole architecture - Ram, Software development tools, CPU - and asking, which package is better?

We all know about the Cell, but whats not often considered is the whole package and how well it performs at its primary task - running cool games.

 



Tease.

Do you think the 360's year head start may have something to do with this? Games always get better as consoles progress through their life cycle. Just a thought. I really have no idea.



Anyone saying "compare exclusives"...How does one do this?

Also, if Uncharted all of a sudden got a 360 port, its not longer comparable in terms of graphics? Give me a break...



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now i can say thats the 360 more powerful than the PS3 ... its not a troll because i have a proof & its this thread lol.



I can't wait till MikeB finds this thread and repeats the same flawed arguments he has been making for months



Leo-j said: If a dvd for a pc game holds what? Crysis at 3000p or something, why in the world cant a blu-ray disc do the same?

ssj12 said: Player specific decoders are nothing more than specialized GPUs. Gran Turismo is the trust driving simulator of them all. 

"Why do they call it the xbox 360? Because when you see it, you'll turn 360 degrees and walk away" 

sieanr said:
I can't wait till MikeB finds this thread and repeats the same flawed arguments he has been making for months

It's going to be Epic.

But really, what is there to argue about?  GTAIV had seperate teams on each version of the game.

 



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As someone said earlier, this thread pops up in various guises again and again. And for what purpose? Both systems have pros and cons. We can debate them until the cows come home, but we wont get anywhere.

Threads like these will just become flame wars and result in bans. Hopefully not another one for me



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