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As expected, 360 fans refuse to accept that the 360 is selling anywhere near the original xbox



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colonelstubbs said:
As expected, 360 fans refuse to accept that the 360 is selling anywhere near the original xbox

As expected some random PS3 fanboy will enter to the topic and put some non-sense after carefully avoiding all the post that prove the Topic Creator wrong...

 



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HappyNoodle said:
rocketpig said:
It amazes me that people are so bloody terrible at figuring out what statistics mean and interpreting them in a rational manner.

Hilarious.

There are absolutely no statistics involved in this topic.

Hilarious that you can't comprehend a simple set of numbers and interpret them correctly. You've been proven wrong in this thread by nearly everyone who bothered to post, yet you sit there and claim that somehow your half-assed "analysis" of two random sets of numbers prove anything.

BTW, you did use statistics. Good to see that you also fail at teh Engrish along with teh Maths. Wanna go for the trifecta and say something about science?

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/statistics

 




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colonelstubbs said:
As expected, 360 fans refuse to accept that the 360 is selling anywhere near the original xbox

It's selling 29% faster. How can a Xbox 360 fan work around actuals? I've never really seen a X360 fan say that the X360 is blowing the Xbox out of the water. It's certainly a good bit higher, and the trend(s) show that the lead is increasing. But again...Who's saying that people aren't saying it's selling "near" the Xbox? (Likewise, what about PS3 fans arguing that it's selling near the PS3?)

JGarret - About X360 sales for the end of the generation. That's a hard one to figure out, as the lifecycle of the Xbox was certainly short, and we can assume that the X360 will last longer.

If you use the simple math that the X360 has outsold the Xbox by 29% Life to Date, we get around 31.3 million consoles by the end of the Xbox 360's lifecycle. I feel this is the absolute minimum - a worst, of the worst case scenarios.

If you look at trending, you know that the Xbox 360's lead is increasing versus the Xbox the further along sales go - as cited by others in this post. Also, the Xbox 360 should have a longer lifespan (as you said yourself).

Fortuately, the Xbox and Xbox 360 launched at the same time of the year (November), so we can certinly compare month by month sales pretty well, as both consoles have similar timespans (the Xbox did, however, launch about 3 weeks earlier in November. But I consider this not to be a big issue).

Xbox 360, YTD (3rd year on market, 2008): 3,871,000 Units

Xbox, YTD (3rd year on market, 2004): 2,370,000 Units

Xbox 360 YTD Lead: 1,501,000 Units as of Last Week (partial data for this week

Xbox 360 Lead Margin (This Year): 57.8%

 

So using those numbers, assuming the Xbox 360 had the same lifespan, and we took this new trend into consideration (the 57% YTD lead vs. the 29% LTD lead), we get 38.3m units sold if the X360 maintained a similar rate of sales (the 57%) from now on. A more likely scenario than the worst case 31.3m

However, again, this assumes that the Xbox 360 has the same lifespan as the Xbox (44 months of production). I would argue the Xbox 360 will be made longer than that, as would most market analysts, and official PR from Microsoft. So that's another factor in the equasion, as it would lead to higher likely sales. If the Xbox 360 had another extra 18 months on market for production (a good middle of the road number), we can tack on extra sales. Lets use average sales that the X360 has seen this year (645,000 Units/Mo sold). This gives us an extra 11.6m units sold.

Factoring it all together:

Prediction Low Estimation Mid Estimation High Estimation
Sales 31,300,00 38,300,000 49,900,000
Formula

X * Y

((X-V) * Z) + U (((X-V) * Z) + U) + (ZZ * 18) 

V = Xbox at Week 138

X = Xbox Life to Date Sales (24.1m Units)

U = Xbox 360 Life to Date (week 138)

Y = Xbox 360 Life to Date Margin

Z = Xbox 360 Year to Date Margin

ZZ = Xbox 360 Year to Date Avg. Sales

And thats assuming the Xbox 360 doesn't change it's sales trends: MS could lower prices and increase its YTD margin even further, or sales could collapse due to some idiotic blunder. But I think that the X360 should wind up between the Middle or High numbers (I vote close to the high number).

 



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Bitmap Frogs said:
Etech7 said:
It also helps that ms dosen't even care about money anymore just destroying the competion fisrt they stoped the mac now they have stoped the ps 3 whats next bill? Microsoft even makes its own ecurrecy called ms points if ms was a contry i think they could invade mexico and fix its drug cartel problems with its supperior firepower from its 10 story mechs and legions of spartan 3s.

 

Yeah, they don't care about money... that's why the 360 still costs 350$ in the US. Not to mention using points instead of real currency is a common model for microtransactions (from online services to theme park drinks).

Your whole post makes you look like a nutso =/

 

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Good analysis, stickball, I agree the 360 should finish with 40 million something...good improvement over the original system.



colonelstubbs said:
As expected, 360 fans refuse to accept that the 360 is selling anywhere near the original xbox

 

Kinda like how Sony fans try to pretend the PS3 is tracking as well as the PS2, or how the PSP's sales in Japan aren't just runoff from pent handheld demand the DS created and then stalled by saturation, or that said sales even matter, and aren't just a novelty in a long lost war? Or how they pretend the PS3's library is competitive and equal to the 360's and there is no right or wrong, because of opinion?

Let's not bring up what people around these forums like to "accept," shall we?



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You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

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ZenfoldorVGI said:
colonelstubbs said:
As expected, 360 fans refuse to accept that the 360 is selling anywhere near the original xbox

 

Kinda like how Sony fans try to pretend the PS3 is tracking as well as the PS2, or how the PSP's sales in Japan aren't just runoff from pent handheld demand the DS created and then stalled by saturation, or that said sales even matter, and aren't just a novelty in a long lost war? Or how they pretend the PS3's library is competitive and equal to the 360's and there is no right or wrong, because of opinion?

Let's not bring up what people around these forums like to "accept," shall we?

 

Ouch.



JaggedSac said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:
colonelstubbs said:
As expected, 360 fans refuse to accept that the 360 is selling anywhere near the original xbox

 

Kinda like how Sony fans try to pretend the PS3 is tracking as well as the PS2, or how the PSP's sales in Japan aren't just runoff from pent handheld demand the DS created and then stalled by saturation, or that said sales even matter, and aren't just a novelty in a long lost war? Or how they pretend the PS3's library is competitive and equal to the 360's and there is no right or wrong, because of opinion?

Let's not bring up what people around these forums like to "accept," shall we?

 

Ouch.

I'd like to point out ive never pretended the PS3 is tracking as well as the PS2.

That is all

 



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