"The Earth is flat."

Not only Loco Roco is hardcore it is also very mature. Echochrome is an original idea that put Brain Training and Professor Layton to shame. Also, Sony stops frachises because they don`t want to milk them like Nintendo. It got nothing to do with them failing to sell. The fact that Gran Turismo is the one of the franchises that Sony did not end got nothing to do with its sales. Patapon 2 and LocoRoco 2 are in development because their fans demand it and Sony got an artistic urge, not because they are one of the games that sell well on the PSP.

wow sqrl, that is some serious reasoning you got going on there, major props but be careful because your logic alone could explode some heads.

Speaking as a person who has been around gaming since the 2600 and a loyal big N fan since '86 from NES thru Wii I have to say that this kind of insipid pandering is merely a smoke screen by those who refuse to see what is happening in the world of gaming, change and alteration.

To be fair I too own a 360(2rrod's in) and I simply cannot find any games that make me go wowwwwww, or wheeeeeee, let alone both at the same time. Yet somehow Miyamoto-san and the rest at the big N game me TP, SMG and Brawl within a year and a half of their console launch. TO add to that NMH, RE4, and even Godfather showed the lack of a gimmick and the true possibility of interactivity on different levels.(Ahhh, strangling people is so much fun!)

If people want their GOW, FF, Halo, and anything else that needs to have a frame rate of 60 and 1080p so that it can make a mediocre game(Halo 3) seem worthwhile, and instead of enjoying their games they need to attack someone, then by all means continue to endlessly bash Nintendo for leaving you out in the cold and dark, because you will be there alone while the rest of us bask in the awesomeness of the new ips and next iterations(Please.....a new Zelda.....a Wii one...)

To often we forget our History, and in doing so we allow ourselves to think that we are the first people who have ever trod this ground before, when we are certainly newcomers to this grand world. One man has seen it all in gaming, because he is responsible almost single-handedly for our ways of "hardcore" gaming as we know it: Miyamoto-san.

If anyone thinks the Wii has forgotten those of us who have been there awhile, or that Nintendo has turned away from us for the "very old, very young, and girls" then they are simply idiotic fools, because they cannot remember 20 years in the past, when each and every one of us who was gaming owed our gratitude to the big N and Miyamoto-san.

Perhaps the day is coming soon when this change Nintendo is talking about will be a reality and we can all rejoice in our 256 online multiplayer fps's where we shoot all the girl gamers, kid gamers, and older gamers we want, because we are all enjoying this hobby together, and we can all realize that this is not a matter of life or death. Unless we are the ones wielding the shotgun

Really?

http://vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=3988

VS

http://vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=4643

http://vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=2549

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http://vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=2551

This's a busniess, and the only reason of why Sony sttoped some of their franchises is because they stop selling well or they became too expensive to mantain.

RolStoppable, compare to nintendo, only company above it its capcom with megaman.

Gran Turismo and MGS have been on every console released by Sony.

Mario and Zelda have been on every console released by Nintendo.

Nintendo has just been around for longer.

End discussion.

• Mario has been whore out waaaaay more.
• Baseball
• Racing
• Tennis
• Golf
• Fighting
• Puzzle
• RPG
• Action RPG
• Spin-offs
• Spin-off puzzle games
• Action Puzzle
• Learning
• Movie
• Cartoon
• Live Action TV
• Mario universe has more related games.

The only difference is most of the non-main series remains pretty good.  Almost all Megaman stuff after 4 and X2 suck.

Nintendo doesn't love me anymore? :( I guess now I have to sell my wii.

Your posts make me smile.

I couldn't post it either, funny is that I included Randy's reply in my response, not knowing he's bardiverce. Pretty funny.


I have to disagree with you here.

First of all, your whole article can be proven wrong with a single game: Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn. Nintendo's most hardcore franchise (arguably the most hardcore current gen game on any system) but yet Nintendo decides to make this game. Why would they make this game? I'm pretty sure it didn't sell over half a million copies worldwide, so even tough it's probably profitable it does take away valuable recources (especially manpower) from developing the casual money-makers. The obvious answer is that Nintendo likes its fans. Even a relatively small fanbase like Fire Emblem is catered with a great game.

Also your repeated mentioning of fanboys makes your article very hard to take serious. It's like you're saying that everyone that still insist that the Wii is a great system for the core gamer is somehow delusional and can't be taken serious. That while the Game of the Year 2007 is on Wii. That while the biggest revolution in videogaming since 3D gaming is on Wii. That while the ultimate version of the best game of last generation, a very mature one as well, is on Wii. If anything a real hardcore gamer needs at least a Wii next to one of the HD systems to get the complete gaming experience.

Finally I'd like to comment on Randy Wilson, who points to something that's hardly mentioned, yet very much significant. Without the Wii it is quite possible that the whole industry would have imploded. GTAIV costed an insane $100 million. Sure that's profitable for a franchise like GTA, and maybe a few others, but the incredible rise in development costs basically leads to an environment in which only the EA's and Ubisofts of this world can develop games anymore. Also because the standard is set by these games. The typical HD gamer won't accept anything with sub-par graphics anymore. This does lead to amazing game experiences like Metal Gear Solid 4 and Gears of War, but also to a unification of the games that are released.

And think about this: Konami probably would have earned more money if they put their development budget for Metal Gear Solid 4 on the bank. This is Konami's biggest franchise, which releases only once every 3-4 years. If that's not capable of bringing in big money, the industry is doomed. Please take a look at some annual figures of publishers and developers. Despite videogame sales are at an all time high, the average company presents losses.

Now Wii is heading to a 50% marketshare there's room to develop games like Trauma Center and Little King's Story. And that's very good for the videogame industry in general.
Sure, cinematic games are a very important step in videogaming as well and will continue to attract the gamers that like that style of gaming, but without the Wii it's quite reasonable that all you would have played in the coming years is these kind of games. And that all the small developers would have been out of business or bought by a major.