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SOLIDSNAKE08 on 17 July 2008

i have been browsing on vgchartz for a long time! lol i made an account ages ago but forgot about it somehow! i just remembered about it now! gonna start using the forums now! finally! anyway i bet people are gonna think i am a ps fanboy cause of my username and i probably wont be able to say anything positive about the ps3 without being blasted with "fanboy"! i love video games and have had nearly every console ever made! right now i only have a WII, 360, PS3 and my all time favourite the king of kings PS2!! my favourite ever game is of course MGS and my favourite character? look at my username!



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Oyvoyvoyv on 17 July 2008
Nutboy said:
Oyvoyvoyv said:

And I'm saying it's not. I also believe you do not know what VGC tracks. I myself don't really know, but everyone says NA, and I assume the majority is correct here.

The numbers you provided for average income mean next to nothing. Mexico is 7500 dollars. But there is a huge class difference there. The top 15% stand for 60% of the total income. This means that those 16.5M in Mexico (not including the 70M not in Canada, USA and Mexico) have an average income of 30.000 USD a year. Considering the far lower prices there, this equals to about the same as a US citizen. I believe this is higher than Canada, but I'm not certain. The Brazil average means nothing, as it is in Others, not NA.

So solely by population, those 15% should equal out more than half of Canada, making 500K a safe bet. And this isn't even including the 70M out of the big 3 in NA.

 EDIT: Sorry, that's supposed to be 30-40M out of the big 3. Sorry!

 

 

 Wow, I agreed with Griffin, but you're actually correct. Well done proving it.

Thanks. Orignally I agreed with Griffin too. I was checking for numbers to back him up, but found the opposite.

 



http://www.vgchartz.com/games/userreviewdisp.php?id=261

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shanbcn on 17 July 2008
DMeisterJ said:
This, with MSs fiscals today have made me extremely happy.

With huge price cut in EU they still ship just 1.3 million. I think Sony will ship close to 3 million and the gap will become lower then 5 million.

 



celine on 17 July 2008
DMeisterJ said:
celine said:
This GIF never get old:

Didn't 360 get to 10 mil first?  Worldwide and in America?

It really matter ? It made fun of MS'"s first to 10 million wins".

 



 “In the entertainment business, there are only heaven and hell, and nothing in between and as soon as our customers bore of our products, we will crash.”  Hiroshi Yamauchi

TAG:  Like a Yamauchi pimp slap delivered by Il Maelstrom; serving it up with style.

DMeisterJ on 17 July 2008
celine said:
DMeisterJ said:
celine said:
This GIF never get old:

Didn't 360 get to 10 mil first?  Worldwide and in America?

It really matter ? It made fun of MS'"s first to 10 million wins".

No, I was just confuzzed ^_^

 



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konnichiwa on 17 July 2008
SOLIDSNAKE08 said:
i have been browsing on vgchartz for a long time! lol i made an account ages ago but forgot about it somehow! i just remembered about it now! gonna start using the forums now! finally! anyway i bet people are gonna think i am a ps fanboy cause of my username and i probably wont be able to say anything positive about the ps3 without being blasted with "fanboy"! i love video games and have had nearly every console ever made! right now i only have a WII, 360, PS3 and my all time favourite the king of kings PS2!! my favourite ever game is of course MGS and my favourite character? look at my username!

 

The best first post of a Sony fanboy ever =p.






ZenfoldorVGI on 17 July 2008
DMeisterJ said:

ZenfoldorVGI said:
666.7K Wii
405.5K PS3
219.8K 360
337.4K PSP
783K DS
188.8k PS2

DS + Wii = 1404k

PS3 + PSP + PS2 = 930k

360 = 219k

@DMJ Sony < Nintendo I think.

DMeisterJ said:
Sony > Nintendo Wii! SDF is gonna have a ball with this.

It's okay.  We all mess up sometimes.

lol, my bad. Sorrys.

 



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

koffieboon on 17 July 2008
shanbcn said:
DMeisterJ said:
This, with MSs fiscals today have made me extremely happy.

With huge price cut in EU they still ship just 1.3 million. I think Sony will ship close to 3 million and the gap will become lower then 5 million.

 

 

3 million sounds extremely optimistic to me, did Sony ever come close to such a shipment number for PS3 outside of the holidays?



CrazzyMan on 17 July 2008
Oyvoyvoyv said:
Griffin said:
Oyvoyvoyv said:
Griffin said:
Oyvoyvoyv said:
Griffin said:
superchunk said:
Griffin said:
FishyJoe said:

According to Bloomberg, over 10.9 million Wiis LTD in US. If you add in Canada and the rest of the Americas, VGC almost sounds like it's tracking on the low side comparatively. I've underlined comparatively because I'm not saying VGC is under tracking, only that it may be tracking differently on the low side when you compare.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601080&sid=aK64sYWSB1Rw&refer=asia

 

How do you get that, according to this site we have the wii at 12.55mil for the last week in june, with the US at 10.9 that puts 1.6 for Canada, and thats well above 10%.  If anything it appears we are over tracking.

ummm, your forgeting about all those little countries below the US.

10.9 + 1.1 = 12m

Then about 500k for the rest of NA. Sure, that's reasonable.

 

You are out of your mind if you think there are 500k sales of the wii for central and south America, and does Nintendo even ship wii's to South America, i think the suppliers buy them from the US and ship them down south.

 

You are aware that south America isn't a part of North America, right?

As for the numbers, look at this.

NA population: 523M

US population: 304M

Canada population: 33M

Rest population: 186M

Are you telling me that the rest 186M people, couldn't have bought 500.000 Wiis, when a less than 1/5 population bought more than twice as much?

 

You do know how little people make on average in South America, Brazil, 2006 average is $4600, the US is $42,000+.  Mexico is about $7500, the rest of SA is even lower.

 
I think you're joking, but I'm not sure. North America is what VGC has America as. I used North America. Brasil alone has a population of 188M (I think), so how the heck could I have included SA? If I'm wrong, and VGC tracks all of America, what I wrote is still valid, as I used NA only. Once again, South America is a continent, and not a part of North America.

 

South America(SA)/Central Amerca is poor, they have not bought 500k wii's.  The numbers i provided are correct for the average income.  I know what VGC tracks.  I'm saying we have over tracked if we go by NPD numbers.

 

And I'm saying it's not. I also believe you do not know what VGC tracks. I myself don't really know, but everyone says NA, and I assume the majority is correct here.

The numbers you provided for average income mean next to nothing. Mexico is 7500 dollars. But there is a huge class difference there. The top 15% stand for 60% of the total income. This means that those 16.5M in Mexico (not including the 70M not in Canada, USA and Mexico) have an average income of 30.000 USD a year. Considering the far lower prices there, this equals to about the same as a US citizen. I believe this is higher than Canada, but I'm not certain. The Brazil average means nothing, as it is in Others, not NA.

So solely by population, those 15% should equal out more than half of Canada, making 500K a safe bet. And this isn't even including the 70M out of the big 3 in NA.

 EDIT: Sorry, that's supposed to be 30-40M out of the big 3. Sorry!

 

I just really don`t know, so i just want some ANSWERS. =)

LTD NPD Canada through Jan/08:
360 - 736,400
WII - 689,500
PS3 - 342,400

LTD NPD Canada through Mar/08:
WII - 813,000

Usa NPD Feb:
Xbox 360 255K
PLAYSTATION 3 281K
Wii 432K units

Usa NPD March:
Xbox 360 262K
PLAYSTATION 3 257K
Wii 721K

The Wii in Canada is at 813,000 LTD as of March or +124,000 in Feb+March = 10,5%(of USA Feb+March sales).

Then in 2 month(Feb+March) in Canada by the end of March:
x360 = +54k = 790k
ps3 = +58k = 400k
wii = 813k

Usa NPD March LTD:

360: 9.868
Wii: 8.797
PS3: 4.054

Total NA by March 30.
x360 - NPD 10,660 - VG 11,110 - 450k
Wii - NPD 9,610 - VG 10,195 - 600k
ps3 - NPD 4,453 - VG 4,448 - -5k

http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=Wii&reg1=America&cons2=PS3&reg2=America&cons3=X360&reg3=America&start=39453&end=39537&weekly=1

REASON:

1) why ps3 is below NPD numbers? With having in mind, that VG NA numbers get adjusted, after NPD numbers come.

2) why Wii and x360 so much above NPD numbers. PS3 is NOT selling there, where x360 and Wii sells?



Every 5 seconds on earth one child dies from hunger...

2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far

SpartanFX on 17 July 2008
shanbcn said:
DMeisterJ said:
Euphoria14 said:
DMJ, I guess this means you will be closer to that 25% now huh?

After ioi adjusts ^_^

 

After MS shipment LTD it seem you will win the bet way before the end of the year.

 

what was the announcement?