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Sky Render on 17 July 2008

What Miyamoto is actually obsessed with is the same thing he's always been obsessed with: making games which appeal to as many people as possible. This is nothing new or surprising, nor is the outrage towards it, sadly. 20 years ago, the same outrage was being brought up by the hardcore gamers of the day, and Miyamoto's ingenious Super Mario Bros and Legend of Zelda games were being derided as "casual games" by jaded PC gamers. The cries that Nintendo was killing the game industry rung sharply, and the unprecedented success of these "casual games" they kept putting out enraged the PC gamers of the day, since they were all simple 4-button-at-most games that had little depth, but a lot of gameplay in spite of that.

Don't make the same mistake as the hardcore of the 1980s did. Embrace the change. When an industry shifts, it doesn't ever revert back to what it was. Though it will again emerge as a core-centric industry, that core is currently being weaned on Wii Sports and Mario Kart Wii, not Twilight Princess and Metroid Prime 3.



Sky Render - Sanity is for the weak.

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swyggi on 17 July 2008
Riachu said:
Miyamoto is too obsessed with casual gamers.

 

 He's also obsessed with weight gain.  ~_^



This will only take a moment of your time. *steals your watch*

megaman79 on 17 July 2008
Soriku said:
Shameless said:
Soriku said:
Having they said this before? Nothing new here. Nintendo games still have challenges regardless. Isn't SMG "for everyone"? Now, tell a casual to do the Trial Galaxy. Not so easy,..is it? And Zelda has some pretty confusing puzzles and long dungeons. Really, if Zelda: TP and SMG played fine...future titles won't change much either when it comes to "accessability".

SMG is not for everyone. If you've ever seen a non-gamer attempt to play the game you'd know what I mean. Non-gamers can handle games like Wii-Fit and Wii Sports because things you do in real life happen on screen. Is this what Miyamoto is trying to do with Zelda?

 

 

They said SMG is for everyone...so yeah.

I still haven't got 120 stars

 



“When we make some new announcement and if there is no positive initial reaction from the market, I try to think of it as a good sign because that can be interpreted as people reacting to something groundbreaking. ...if the employees were always minding themselves to do whatever the market is requiring at any moment, and if they were always focusing on something we can sell right now for the short term, it would be very limiting. We are trying to think outside the box.” - Satoru Iwata - This is why corporate multinationals will never truly understand, or risk doing, what Nintendo does.

megaman79 on 17 July 2008

Miyamoto: E3 is NOT for Core games,



“When we make some new announcement and if there is no positive initial reaction from the market, I try to think of it as a good sign because that can be interpreted as people reacting to something groundbreaking. ...if the employees were always minding themselves to do whatever the market is requiring at any moment, and if they were always focusing on something we can sell right now for the short term, it would be very limiting. We are trying to think outside the box.” - Satoru Iwata - This is why corporate multinationals will never truly understand, or risk doing, what Nintendo does.

Zucas on 17 July 2008

OMG. Why is everyone always looking so much into what these people say. You are goign to get your Zelda and its still going to be for the core gamers. Geez. Only thing that they mean making it more accessible is probably the intefrace. 1:1 sword control and things like that. Otherwise it'll more then likely be same old game that we are used to.



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tarheel91 on 17 July 2008

Shameless attempting to spread FUD on the Nintendo forums? Nothing new here.



irstupid on 17 July 2008

or he could be talking about how some games lets say a fighter and a guy with a sword. He wants to do a horizontal swing, vertical swing, a spin followed by a stab.

To do this on the controller you need to to (up B, right B, spin stick A, followed by down B)

Now the new way is to swing your arm in this 1:1 sword fighting. Hmm what sounds easier to use.



bardicverse on 17 July 2008
megaman79 said:
 Were talkin Disney makin porn here. Not happening

I've seen a lot of Disney porn.

My childhood will forever be scarred.



johntonsoup on 17 July 2008

Nintendo has been doing this since the SNES. Did you not play Zelda II: The Adventure of Link? It was WAY too hard and therefore not nearly as popular. After that debacle, Nintendo started making their franchises much more accessible.

Look at Ocarina of Time. It was one of the most accessible games ever made. There were no really difficult fights and the puzzles were mostly straightforward. With a little help with the harder puzzles, a 4 year old could beat the game. Even though it was accessible, it was also one of the best games of all time.

Relax.



superchunk on 17 July 2008
Leetgeek said:
I'm never getting a Wii.

They could've just put the Wiimote on the gamecube.

Ya know. I don't think I have ever called someone a troll. Mostly because I usually think that the comments are sometimes more humorous than trollish.

In this case, your comment is not funny and has absolutely nothing to do with the topic on hand. I could see you saying you're never getting a Wii because of comments like this and you think it is just too 'soft' in your opinion. But really what the hell does your idiot thought that the Wii = a gamecube thus, a wiimote could have been on the gamecube have to do with anything?

Either I completely misunderstood what your are attempting to say or you just made the biggest douche post on these forums.