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antfromtashkent on 17 July 2008
rocketpig said:
antfromtashkent said:
BengaBenga said:
Really I'm getting tired of the assumptions that Microsoft buys everything.

Doesn't it occur to anyone that the 360 is the leading console+entertainment sytem in the most important market: the US? And that it therfore is a ver valuable partner?
Square even said it was THEIR decision to bring FF13 to 360 as well, not very strange considering 360's userbase in the US.
For Netflix this partnership opens a whole lot of opportunities.

 

 Lol well in this case the assumption that they bought it makes the most sence.....NetFlix was supporting Sony when they were doing bad...why would they switch now?

You're overlooking a few points:

1. Netflix may have supported Blu-ray but because MS didn't have a huge financial stake in HD-DVD in the first place, that's largely irrelevent.

2. Netflix is a business. A business that wants to make money.

3. The optical format pissing contest is over and it's time to move on.

4. Rumors about this have been swirling since HD-DVD was alive and going strong. That shows you how separate these two issues really are. Partnerships like this don't spring up overnight; you can bet the two companies have been talking for a long, long time about this.

 

1. It dosent matter it MS had stake in HD DVD... the 360 would have profited A LOT if HD DVD would have won....think about all the HD DVD drives that were abbandoned...

2. That just proves my point further.....

3. I only brought the formats up because HD DVD was a big hit to MS weather they want admit it or not.....(see 1.)

4. Yes they have been...but so were the roumors about the service coming to the SP3 but as u can see the service is exclusive to 360.... ipso facto....



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rocketpig on 17 July 2008

MS wouldn't have profited much at all from HD-DVD's success. I doubt they made much from the drives themselves (they were pretty cheap) and they made no royalties from disc sales (other than the marginal amount they receive from their codecs used in HD-DVD).

People seem to be very confused about MS's stake in HD-DVD. They owned the rights to a few codecs and would have profited somewhat from those had the format succeeded... Other than that, they were just looking to be a thorn in Sony's (and Blu-ray's) side. They had very little financial stake in the format, nor would they have profited much from its success.




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antfromtashkent on 17 July 2008
rocketpig said:
MS wouldn't have profited much at all from HD-DVD's success. I doubt they made much from the drives themselves (they were pretty cheap) and they made no royalties from disc sales (other than the marginal amount they receive from their codecs used in HD-DVD).

People seem to be very confused about MS's stake in HD-DVD. They owned the rights to a few codecs and would have profited somewhat from those had the format succeeded... Other than that, they were just looking to be a thorn in Sony's (and Blu-ray's) side. They had very little financial stake in the format, nor would they have profited much from its success.

 

 i agree they might not have profited from the sales of HD DVDs themselves but the newer models of 360 would have HD drives rite now and if BR was dead in the water the PS would be in WIKED trouble rite now and with the wining format you always have a leg up on your competition... but this is going back to format wars and i dint like them to begin with... the point is with HD DVD 360 would have a new format to work with that is alot better then their current one is



Leetgeek on 17 July 2008

Unlike the XBox LIVE movie rentals, using the Netflix streaming requires you to pay for a LIVE Gold account along with the Netflix subscription.

The good news is M$ hooks you up with a free month of live after your 360 bricks out.



theprof00 on 17 July 2008

cmon rocketpig you do have to admit these facts.

It is an amazing service. And it will sell consoles. Do you think netflix does not know this?

I'm sure netflix also knows that this is pretty much the first large scale digital distribution by mS as a test for future potential. I'm sure this is worth something.

Which servers are holding 10,000 movies? Is it netflix servers? who is paying for that?

The key will be to find out with they have an exclusivity contract, or whether 360 is simply the only one to carry it. That is where you find out if it was paid or not.



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Kasz216 on 17 July 2008
theprof00 said:
cmon rocketpig you do have to admit these facts.

It is an amazing service. And it will sell consoles. Do you think netflix does not know this?

I'm sure netflix also knows that this is pretty much the first large scale digital distribution by mS as a test for future potential. I'm sure this is worth something.

Which servers are holding 10,000 movies? Is it netflix servers? who is paying for that?

The key will be to find out with they have an exclusivity contract, or whether 360 is simply the only one to carry it. That is where you find out if it was paid or not.


Netflix is paying for that. Netflix already is paying for that... right now.

Netflix has it's own standalone box for $99 that lets you stream netflix content.

All Netflix is doing is using the 360 inplace of that box.

I was considering getting it.

http://gizmodo.com/389698/first-netflix-streaming-box-review-100-and-unlimited-downloads



dbot on 17 July 2008

The Netflix download library sucks.



Thanks for the input, Jeff.

 

 

XGamer0611 on 17 July 2008

The CEO of Netflix is on MS board of directors.



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theprof00 on 17 July 2008

"People seem to be very confused about MS's stake in HD-DVD. They owned the rights to a few codecs and would have profited somewhat from those had the format succeeded... Other than that, they were just looking to be a thorn in Sony's (and Blu-ray's) side. They had very little financial stake in the format, nor would they have profited much from its success."

ok rP i'm sorry, you're a nice guy, but try not being so sure about a subject like this one. It makes you look bad.

MS helped finance toshiba's sub 100$ HDdvd players, MS accepted responsibility for selling a now defunct player to it's customers on toshibas behalf.

Right there I see more than enough investment to be called "invested". Putting your name on the line is a big thing, and ms has taken a lot of brush about the HDDVD player and their marketing "techniques".

MS desperately wanted Sony out of the race with an extinct console.
They would have profited by income from codecs, from increased sales of 360, from developers who would have switched to 360, found a great start on the next console generation, and many other benefits.

MS lost a great potential "gamble". On one hand they really didn't want HDDVD to win either, but they let their competitor stay in the game. And you know what, they really couldn't do anything about it short of having literal "dumping" sales of 360 players and financing the sometimes free HDDVD players.



Kasz216 on 17 July 2008
XGamer0611 said:
The CEO of Netflix is on MS board of directors.

Which if true wouldn't mean anything, since by law he couldn't be involved in any decisions between the two companies. (to my knowledge anyway.)