| MontanaHatchet said: Damn, this may be the first console ever that came in 3rd place and actually contained the best lineup of RPGs. Microsoft certainly is devoted to crushing the genre. |
I'll add that to my list of reasons I dislike Microsoft.
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| TheBigFatJ said: There is no question that the 360 is the JRPG console this generation. The Playstation family lost that title for its home systems. I don't know what intentions that he had with this thread, but it seems like it was to rub it in peoples faces, which is despicable at best, and a down right douchy move, especially from someone in power. Rubbing what in people's faces? Their own bad predictions or their own contradictions? Isn't the whole point of the Internet to show people their own contradictions and then have them be unable to rationalize said contradictions, then have them ignore said contradictions, then have them deny said contradictions? If not, why else are we here? |
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RPG_Fanatic said:
I'll add that to my list of reasons I dislike Microsoft. |
So you hate them because they brought your favourite genre over to there console?
08' Year End Predictions
Wii: 46 Million
Xbox 360: 26 Million
PS3: 22 Million
Sale Predictions:
Gears Of War 2 - 7 Million
Fable 2 - 3 Million
Left 4 Dead - 1.5 Million
Infinite Undiscovery - 700k
Tales Of Vesperia - 550k
The Last Remnant - 700k
Ninja Gaiden - 800k LTD [?] On its way.
Banjo-Kazooie N&B - 2 Million
Lost Odyssey - 500k LTD [X] surpassed
Too Human - 1.4 Million
Riachu said:
S-E said that they wanted to give support to all three consoles so I don't think there will be a clear cut winner for most JRPGs.
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Exactly. The only way you're going to choose the 360 over the other 2 consoles is if JRPGs are your absolute favorite games. And if you do choose the 360, you'll still be missing out on a number of very good ones on the PS3 and DS. Or you if you're really that much in love with the genre, you'll buy multiple systems.
My Top 5:
Shadow of the Colossus, Metal Gear Solid 3, Shenmue, Skies of Arcadia, Chrono Trigger
My 2 nex-gen systems: PS3 
and Wii 
Prediction Aug '08: We see the PSP2 released fall '09. Graphically, it's basically the same as the current system. UMD drive ditched and replaced by 4-8gb on board flash memory. Other upgrades: 2nd analog nub, touchscreen, blutooth, motion sensor. Design: Flip-style or slider. Size: Think Iphone. Cost: $199. Will be profitable on day 1.
jman8 said:
Exactly. The only way you're going to choose the 360 over the other 2 consoles is if JRPGs are your absolute favorite games. And if you do choose the 360, you'll still be missing out on a number of very good ones on the PS3 and DS. Or you if you're really that much in love with the genre, you'll buy multiple systems. |
I love RPGs along with action/adventure games, and shooters
I still can't be convinced that the 360 is the clear winner in the JRPG department. It may have a slight advantage, but nothing I've seen points to the 360 as THE platform for JRPGs. Let's take a look (I'll left out bad raten games like Enchanted Arms or Operation Darkness):
360 JRPGs
Blue Dragon (not a great game, going by RPGFan)
Lost Odyssey
FF XIII
Vesperia (which probably will go to the PS3)
Star Ocean 4 (may or may not go to ps3)
Cry On (we've seen nothing)
Infinite Undiscovery
Eternal Sonata
Last Remnant
PS3
Folklore (genre is debatable)
Eternal Sonata
FFXIII
FF Versus XIII (may or may not go to 360)
Valkyria Chronicles
Disgaea 3
White Knight Story
Last Remnant
It's the 360 lineup superior? Yes. By much? No. Plus, a lot of titles haven't been anounced. Nippon said that after Disgaea they'll put their next title on the PS3. Konami hasn't said where Suikoden will go. Atlus has said where SMT will go (though they announced a SMT PS3 game in 2005, they haven't confirmed it). Level 5 may be working on Dark Cloud 3. In all, I think it's pretty early to declare a winner in the JRPG library. Surely, Microsoft improved their position compared to last gen, and Sony worsened it. but I see no reason to declare this as a battle for Microsoft yet
| zexen_lowe said: I still can't be convinced that the 360 is the clear winner in the JRPG department. It may have a slight advantage, but nothing I've seen points to the 360 as THE platform for JRPGs. Let's take a look (I'll left out bad raten games like Enchanted Arms or Operation Darkness): |
Why is it that you have to add tags to the 360 games because they may come to the PS3? Lets just keep actuals as actuals. Sony fans have kept believing that their favorite IP will come to the PS3, and how many of them have gone to the PS3? Sonata and Enchant Arms. A year+ longer than their debut.
And *Maybe* its me, but we look at the actual exclusives to each console:
Blue Dragon
Lost Odyssey
Tales of Vesperia
Star Ocean
Cry On
Infinite Undiscovery
Spectral Force 3
Zoids Assault
Kingdom Under Fire: CoD
Culdcept Saga
Vs.
Folklore
FF Versus XIII
Valkyria Chronicles
Disgaea 3
White Knight Story
Which list looks better? I think it's undeniable that the X360's lineup is. It's had a few great ones released in BD and LO (zexen, I've actually played both and can vouch they are superb), and is getting ToV, and IU this year in the West. The PS3 is getting Disgaea 3 and Valkyria Chronicles this year...Maybe it's me, but getting ToV and IU this year + having LO, Culdcept Saga, and Circle of Doom this year is a far better, more viable console for JRPGs. We've had 3 this year in the West. PS3 fans have had.........0? And are getting 2. So the PS3, in 2008 is getting less JRPGs than the 360 has already got, and the X360's lineup for JRPGs in the 2nd half of 08 is about 3 times the size as the PS3's. Pretty big, eh?
Back from the dead, I'm afraid.
Culdcept Saga isn't an RPG (believe me, I played Culdcept in the PS2, great game, but not and RPG). KUF has a Metacritic of 55. Not saying the game is bad, I haven't played it, but it's hard to take into account.
I haven't considered SF3 and Zoids, you may add that.
All I'm saying is that Vesperia appeared once as a 360/PS3 game. The same happened to Eternal Sonata. What happened to that one?
And I don't care if they are timed or not. I haven't got a PS3 or a 360, and won't be getting a PS3 for a long time. I can wait. I still think that it's not a definitive call that the 360 is the JRPG console for this gen. It's too early to say that
| zexen_lowe said: Culdcept Saga isn't an RPG (believe me, I played Culdcept in the PS2, great game, but not and RPG). KUF has a Metacritic of 55. Not saying the game is bad, I haven't played it, but it's hard to take into account. |
Well many people dont consider Folklore an RPG either so you could take that off your list also.
08' Year End Predictions
Wii: 46 Million
Xbox 360: 26 Million
PS3: 22 Million
Sale Predictions:
Gears Of War 2 - 7 Million
Fable 2 - 3 Million
Left 4 Dead - 1.5 Million
Infinite Undiscovery - 700k
Tales Of Vesperia - 550k
The Last Remnant - 700k
Ninja Gaiden - 800k LTD [?] On its way.
Banjo-Kazooie N&B - 2 Million
Lost Odyssey - 500k LTD [X] surpassed
Too Human - 1.4 Million
The Mann said:
Well many people dont consider Folklore an RPG either so you could take that off your list also. |
That's why I posted it was debatable. And I haven't played Folklore, so I can't judge it. But there is no way to think of Culdcept as an RPG. Call it board game, call it turn based strategy, call it card collecting. But don't call it RPG. Folklore certainly has way more RPG elements than Culdcept
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