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I would not surprise me to see some big electronics retailers start to go Blu only soon. Best Buy, Circuit City, etc...



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Dallinor said:
Netflix is the largest online rental service. That's a big move.

Although their justification is more of the same boring talk about now they can increase the growth of hi-def. Yes, it's the precence of HD-DVD that has caused hi-def movie adoption to be so slow, even though reports say it's being adopted faster than DVD and VHS.

And they mention player prices dropping faster, as though player prices aren't already at levels DVD and VHS too years to reach.

Basically, companies are free to go to blu-ray, but they seem to be doing it for a false belief that this format war is in the way of hi-def growth.

I say if HD-DVD goes away, blu-ray is going to rest on its laurels. Sure we will see more movies, but nothing exciting done with them, since the drive to push the technology, as fast as they have been, would be gone. 



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^ ive been saying that for a while. HD -DVD has 1/4th of shelf space in my Best buy with BR having a full shelf to itself. DVD having 4 shelves and PSP movies with another 1/4th of shelf space. (HD-DVD and PSP share a half a shelf.)



PooperScooper said:
^ ive been saying that for a while. HD -DVD has 1/4th of shelf space in my Best buy with BR having a full shelf to itself. DVD having 4 shelves and PSP movies with another 1/4th of shelf space. (HD-DVD and PSP share a half a shelf.)

DVD just has 4 times the shelf space as blu-ray? What kind of dinky Best Buy is that? DVDs, at our local BB, take up about 6 aisles. 



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

WiiStation360 said:
I would not surprise me to see some big electronics retailers start to go Blu only soon. Best Buy, Circuit City, etc...

 Looks like Best Buy is going to promote Blu.  Just in not too long ago.

 

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Industry_Trends/Best_Buy/Best_Buy_to_Recommend_Blu-ray_over_HD_DVD/1455 



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and now best buy. Yeap. Shows over. I sure would like There Will Be Blood to be Para's first release.



But the XBOX 360 HD-DVD player is only $129! This war isn't over yet!

*akward silence*

Oh well. Looks like this thread won't be going on much longer. HD-DVD's death is imminent.



Looks like there is a very good chance Paramount will come back relatively soon, but not til March or April. Here is the relevant thread on highdefdigest.com.  Also note that several of the people mentioned are actual insiders or have access to insider information, like Penton-Man and David Vaughn.

http://forums.highdefdigest.com/showthread.php?t=42837

Ok everyone,

I realize that when Penton-Man made his remark that there were more announcements to come, a lot of people assumed he was talking about Paramount and people started speculating that an announcement could come by friday.

I think that is unlikely for several reasons:

1. Bill Hunt has said on HTF it likely wont happen until March or April at latest.

2. David Vaughn also told me this in an email.


Paramount IS coming, but dont expect an announcement by friday.

For all the HD-DVD fans, you can exhale. Paramount will likely still be HD-DVD exclusive on friday.



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Toshiba to drop HD DVD, sources say
Company says no decision has been made
By Thomas K. Arnold and Erik Gruenwedel

Feb 15, 2008
The format war has turned into a format death watch.

Toshiba is widely expected to pull the plug on its HD DVD format sometime in the coming weeks, reliable industry sources say, after a rash of retail defections that followed Warner Home Video's announcement in early January that it would support only the rival Blu-ray Disc format after May.

Officially, no decision has been made, insists Jodi Sally, vp of marketing for Toshiba America Consumer Products.



Wal-mart will only stock Blu-Ray players starting June:

http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9873029-7.html

Wal-Mart puts stake through HD DVD's heart:

Things have gone from bad to worse for HD DVD in the space of one week.

Wal-Mart announced Friday morning that it, too, has chosen a side in the battle for high-definition video supremacy: by June it will only stock Blu-ray Disc players.

A buyer in Wal-Mart's video division wrote this morning on her Wal-Mart Checkout blog that the retail giant had made the decision following Netflix and Best Buy's high-profile announcements that they will exclusively stock Blu-ray products.

Wrote Susan Chronister of Wal-Mart: "By June Wal-Mart will only be carrying Blu-ray movies and hardware machines, and of course standard-def movies, DVD players, and up-convert players."

"So," she continues, not mincing words, "if you bought the HD (DVD) player like me, I'd retire it to the bedroom, kid's playroom, or give it to your parents to play their John Wayne standard-def movies, and make space for a BD player..."

That might be the best option at this point, as the dominoes keep falling in Blu-ray's favor. While Netflix and Best Buy were pretty damning evidence that the end was near, now it's glaringly obvious: it's over for HD DVD. Now, that doesn't necessarily mean that consumers will automatically start buying Blu-ray players. As mentioned many times before here, prices will have to continue to fall on both Blu-ray players and packaged media for there to be any sort of mainstream adoption of the format.

There are rumors that Toshiba might soon be declaring defeat: The Hollywood Reporter has sources telling it that Toshiba, the main backer of the HD DVD, might drop its allegiance with the format in the next few weeks.

Toshiba denies it, but stay tuned. There's likely much more to come in this drama.