@shio & mrstickball
Guitar hero? Whats that?
Cya... :)
@shio & mrstickball
Guitar hero? Whats that?
Cya... :)
The Xbox 360 has the best games to play today and a year ago. Isnt that the point?? Blue ray movies? DVD is fine and has a larger selection. If you really just want the best games today, then the Xbox 360. However, it will even stay competetive in the future agaisnt other heavy hitters. Not everyone loves Final Fantasy games and they have lost their luster alot since 1997. Its not 1997 now however and it looks like they are are stuck in it looking at FF XIII trailers.
| Deneidez said: @mrstickball @Barozi It doesn't have any probs with Mass Effect(X360 did have :D). Crysis on medium requires a lot more resources than PS360 can handle. |
@ shio:
Nice list with RPG's, but please not so much Add-Ons. That's stupid
BTW: Army of Two is one of the greatest Coop-Games and overall one the best EA made in the last years
shio said:
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I think that's it for now. Again, PC gaming is OK if you really want to invest the time and patience into spending THAT much cash on a gaming medium. Feel free to do it if you like.
But as a hardcore PC gamer since buying my first PC in 95, PC gaming has changed, A LOT. And all for the worse. 13 years ago, PC games were 90% exclusive to their medium, and surpassed console gaming in nearly every medium aside from platforming, and JRPGs. You couldn't buy an RTS, FPS, Western RPG, play online, have decent save files, have decent 2d/3d graphics, and a pleothora of other advantages that the PC market enjoyed.
The console world never saw the likes of quality WRPGs like the Betrayl series, or Fallout, or Elder Scrolls. Only a few elite FPS games such as Doom or Quake saw renditions on the SNES, N64 or PSX, while the majority of the genre (Wolf 3d, Rise of the Triad, ect) never saw any love on such systems. But 2008 is totally different. As a Xbox 360 owner, I get all the Western RPGs I could care about in Oblivion, Fallout 3, Mass Effect, and so on. I get great FPS games like Halo, and Call of Duty.
I actually get Real Time Strategy games such as Command & Conquer, and will be getting World in Conflict and Red Alert. However, in addition to the old hardline PC-exclusive genres that the 360 (and to a much lesser extent, PS3) has, I'm actually getting platformers, JRPGs, and other typical console-exclusive genres. So I'm getting the cream of the PC world for under half the price. Argue as you like, but it's rather useless. Unless you like upgrading your computer a lot, or play tons of MMOs, the PC isn't as viable as it used to be.
Technology is getting cheaper, and the entry point on gaming PCs is indeed better, but technology in consoles is far more capible, and viable for long-term market strategies for companies.And look at what the top games are for each medium:PC:World of WarcraftXbox 360:Halo 3The difference? WoW is a 5 year old game with atrocious graphics that get installed on 5 CDs.
Halo 3 is a top-notch FPS with high-end graphics. One can easily see that with the implosion we've seen on PC game sales where things are ending up: visually stunning games like MGS4, Halo, Gears, and the like are multi-million sellers. On PC, you either have to be an MMO or something like the Princess Bride game to do well in the market. I know this because I work for a PC gaming company. Guess which way we're going? Catering to lower-specced PCs, because that's the only market that's viable anymore. Being able to run a FPS like our recent Tribes sequel, Fallen Empire: Legions on an achient laptop computer makes you far more money than a Crysis that can be run on 15% of PCs. Thats why you see games like Trackmainia, Galactic Civs, Eschalon, WOW and other, lower-specced games getting pushed at lower price points: it's all that the typical PC gamer can afford to buy, and run on their PCs.
Back from the dead, I'm afraid.
| shio said: Xbox 360 offers nothing the PC doesn't offer better. |
shio, I am a pc gaming fanboy, but you say some of the dumbest shit sometimes.
And that's the only thing I need is *this*. I don't need this or this. Just this PS4... And this gaming PC. - The PS4 and the Gaming PC and that's all I need... And this Xbox 360. - The PS4, the Gaming PC, and the Xbox 360, and that's all I need... And these PS3's. - The PS4, and these PS3's, and the Gaming PC, and the Xbox 360... And this Nintendo DS. - The PS4, this Xbox 360, and the Gaming PC, and the PS3's, and that's all *I* need. And that's *all* I need too. I don't need one other thing, not one... I need this. - The Gaming PC and PS4, and Xbox 360, and thePS3's . Well what are you looking at? What do you think I'm some kind of a jerk or something! - And this. That's all I need.
Obligatory dick measuring Gaming Laptop Specs: Sager NP8270-GTX: 17.3" FULL HD (1920X1080) LED Matte LC, nVIDIA GeForce GTX 780M, Intel Core i7-4700MQ, 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3, 750GB SATA II 3GB/s 7,200 RPM Hard Drive
mrstickball said:
You have GOT to be kidding me.
You are talking about a effing 2.4 GHZ, 1GIG RAM Radeon 9600 PC and bragging that is can play many games? YES it can....but it can't PLAY THEM WELL. Try playing ANY Full BLOWN game made within the last 3 to 4 years and it will play LIKE CRAP. Radoen 9600 iS OLD... 1 GIG of RAM is A JOKE for gaming...don't even let me get started on a 2.4 GHZ processor.
I've been a PC gamer since the BEGINING. Yes, I'm that old. PC gaming is MUCH more expensive. You see if you want to play a game properly (FPS > 20 ), you need to have a video card that is good at playing games....so you are going to drop $300- $400 easily on a video card ALONE. And Video cards can't keep the FPS > 20 by themselves. You need a good processor to go with that....enough memory...and a good motherboard...etc. Put it like this. I currently have a 3.0 GHZ, 2 GIG RAM, GEFORCE 7800...which is MUCH better than your PC...and yet, I wouldn't even think about playing any of the current games on it...it just isn't good enough. |
Oh, and for the record, my current laptop setup (a gift from work):
Intel Dual Core T7800 @ 2.6ghz
4GB DDR2 (667mhz)
Nvida GeForce 8600M (256mb)
320GB 2.5" Internal HDD
And unfortunately for the lovely "optimization" of some games, I can't play UFO: Alien Invasion above >3 FPS at points. I love the fact that PC games are rarely optimized properly.
Back from the dead, I'm afraid.
^^How much do you reckon that laptop costs, stickball?
New, about $1,750. Mine was bought about 3 months ago via my company, and Dell has recently had a huge price drop on them, so when it was purchased, it was around ~$2,100 or so.
Of course, it's a laptop so the price is a bit higher than a standard desktop. Beyond a good laptop, but still...It could possibly run a few high-end games as-is. But due to some issues with wonderful PC archatecture, it can't run some simple games with graphics equal to an early PS2 game very well (like UFO: AI)
Back from the dead, I'm afraid.
| amrstickball said: New, about $1,750. Mine was bought about 3 months ago via my company, and Dell has recently had a huge price drop on them, so when it was purchased, it was around ~$2,100 or so. Of course, it's a laptop so the price is a bit higher than a standard desktop. Beyond a good laptop, but still...It could possibly run a few high-end games as-is. But due to some issues with wonderful PC archatecture, it can't run some simple games with graphics equal to an early PS2 game very well (like UFO: AI) |
I am pretty sure that PS2 can't handle nothing but maybe graphics of that game. Also laptops really aren't for games. Well, if it goes for that PS360 can't run game that looks 80s game. Its called Dwarf Fortress and looks like this.
(And thats a fact. Because of some architectural stuff PS360 will run such a game lower than playable FPS. No game isn't turn based. Just saying. Graphics isn't everything you know. :) )
P.S. Dwarf Fortress is good... wait... GREAT game ;) (Uhm, incredible is even better. I am just not as good as MikeB with this. :/)