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ItsaMii on 07 July 2008
Ajax said:
ItsaMii said:
Ajax said:
Dude if you hate Crisis Core, then it's clear that that's not Square's fault, but your fault.

 

If you like FF 7 CC, you probably would buy anything with a SE or FF 7 logo on it.

 

 You got to be joking man; get the hell out of here with insinuating comments like that like you know me.

1) You must agree that the game is garbage if you only quoted the parts where I don`t talk about the game issues.

2) Do you have some sort of bipolar disorder? You made an assumption about me and them get all pissed off when I do the same. It is like hiting someone and them getting angry when they react with violence.

3) If you want to discuss gameplay issues then I am ok. If you wanna play the "attack the user, not the argument" game, then I am really getting the hell out of here.

 



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tiachopvutru on 07 July 2008
Words Of Wisdom said:
WiiBox3 said:

It is fine that your opinion differs from mine, but please don't insult me by saying that I never did something because your experience lead you to a different opinion. Yes there was a lot of grinding in the older JRPGs, but the amount of grinding needed to complete the game depended on the stratagy you used to defeet the enemies.

I do agree somewhat about the choice and freedom part, although I feel that many of the earlier turnbased JRPGs although linear were less linear than many of the newer ones, in a way. The newer ones have a lot of options pop up just before the final battle.

It's not an opinion.  I spent hours grinding in Final Fantasy games up through FFV.  FFVI didn't require much grinding unless you wanted tons of magic.  Dragon Warrior itself was about grinding for a while.  I own the original Dragon Warrior and Dragon Warrior III.  I've spent at least 50 hours just grinding in Dragon Warrior III because the monsters get ferociously hard at certain points especially if you choose to go sailing without having any clue where you're going.  Heck, you couldn't even go sailing without fear of ocean monsters eating you alive unless you spent time grinding.

Back in those games, there wasn't that much strategy.  Most of the strategy amounted to:  Did I beat the enemy?  If yes, go on.  If no, grind for more levels.

Eh? I thought you wouldn't play MMORPGs due to the amount of grindings needed...

 

Anyway, RPG is a genre that I don't enjoy pretty much. Out of all the very few ones that I have played so far, the only one that I like is Persona 3, and one that I think that is okay is Kingdom Hearts. The grindings and uninteresting gameplays are usually what put me off, and I'm pretty sure it's same to people who don't touch RPGs generally. In DQVIII, the random occurence of battles are what drove me away from it (it wouldn't if the battles were more interesting, however). Even in Persona 3, I would only grind as much as to complete the quests (and to acquire Personas to fuse new ones).

In any case, I still wonder where RPG games got their name from. There are very few "role playing" in the very few RPGs that I have played. In fact, Persona 3 is the only game which I feel that there are actually any kinds of role playing (albeit in a simulation sort of way).



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Riachu on 07 July 2008
tiachopvutru said:
Words Of Wisdom said:
WiiBox3 said:

It is fine that your opinion differs from mine, but please don't insult me by saying that I never did something because your experience lead you to a different opinion. Yes there was a lot of grinding in the older JRPGs, but the amount of grinding needed to complete the game depended on the stratagy you used to defeet the enemies.

I do agree somewhat about the choice and freedom part, although I feel that many of the earlier turnbased JRPGs although linear were less linear than many of the newer ones, in a way. The newer ones have a lot of options pop up just before the final battle.

It's not an opinion. I spent hours grinding in Final Fantasy games up through FFV. FFVI didn't require much grinding unless you wanted tons of magic. Dragon Warrior itself was about grinding for a while. I own the original Dragon Warrior and Dragon Warrior III. I've spent at least 50 hours just grinding in Dragon Warrior III because the monsters get ferociously hard at certain points especially if you choose to go sailing without having any clue where you're going. Heck, you couldn't even go sailing without fear of ocean monsters eating you alive unless you spent time grinding.

Back in those games, there wasn't that much strategy. Most of the strategy amounted to: Did I beat the enemy? If yes, go on. If no, grind for more levels.

Eh? I thought you wouldn't play MMORPGs due to the amount of grindings needed...

 

Anyway, RPG is a genre that I don't enjoy pretty much. Out of all the very few ones that I have played so far, the only one that I like is Persona 3, and one that I think that is okay is Kingdom Hearts. The grindings and uninteresting gameplays are usually what put me off, and I'm pretty sure it's same to people who don't touch RPGs generally. In DQVIII, the random occurence of battles are what drove me away from it (it wouldn't if the battles were more interesting, however). Even in Persona 3, I would only grind as much as to complete the quests (and to acquire Personas to fuse new ones).

In any case, I still wonder where RPG games got their name from. There are very few "role playing" in the very few RPGs that I have played. In fact, Persona 3 is the only game which I feel that there are actually any kinds of role playing (albeit in a simulation sort of way).

That's because the protagonist of Persona 3 was silent.

 



 

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tiachopvutru on 07 July 2008
Riachu said:
tiachopvutru said:
Words Of Wisdom said:
WiiBox3 said:

It is fine that your opinion differs from mine, but please don't insult me by saying that I never did something because your experience lead you to a different opinion. Yes there was a lot of grinding in the older JRPGs, but the amount of grinding needed to complete the game depended on the stratagy you used to defeet the enemies.

I do agree somewhat about the choice and freedom part, although I feel that many of the earlier turnbased JRPGs although linear were less linear than many of the newer ones, in a way. The newer ones have a lot of options pop up just before the final battle.

It's not an opinion. I spent hours grinding in Final Fantasy games up through FFV. FFVI didn't require much grinding unless you wanted tons of magic. Dragon Warrior itself was about grinding for a while. I own the original Dragon Warrior and Dragon Warrior III. I've spent at least 50 hours just grinding in Dragon Warrior III because the monsters get ferociously hard at certain points especially if you choose to go sailing without having any clue where you're going. Heck, you couldn't even go sailing without fear of ocean monsters eating you alive unless you spent time grinding.

Back in those games, there wasn't that much strategy. Most of the strategy amounted to: Did I beat the enemy? If yes, go on. If no, grind for more levels.

Eh? I thought you wouldn't play MMORPGs due to the amount of grindings needed...

 

Anyway, RPG is a genre that I don't enjoy pretty much. Out of all the very few ones that I have played so far, the only one that I like is Persona 3, and one that I think that is okay is Kingdom Hearts. The grindings and uninteresting gameplays are usually what put me off, and I'm pretty sure it's same to people who don't touch RPGs generally. In DQVIII, the random occurence of battles are what drove me away from it (it wouldn't if the battles were more interesting, however). Even in Persona 3, I would only grind as much as to complete the quests (and to acquire Personas to fuse new ones).

In any case, I still wonder where RPG games got their name from. There are very few "role playing" in the very few RPGs that I have played. In fact, Persona 3 is the only game which I feel that there are actually any kinds of role playing (albeit in a simulation sort of way).

That's because the protagonist of Persona 3 was silent.

 

I know that, but it still doesn't answer my question (well, I didn't ask one, but...)

 

 



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Riachu on 07 July 2008
tiachopvutru said:
Riachu said:
tiachopvutru said:
Words Of Wisdom said:
WiiBox3 said:

It is fine that your opinion differs from mine, but please don't insult me by saying that I never did something because your experience lead you to a different opinion. Yes there was a lot of grinding in the older JRPGs, but the amount of grinding needed to complete the game depended on the stratagy you used to defeet the enemies.

I do agree somewhat about the choice and freedom part, although I feel that many of the earlier turnbased JRPGs although linear were less linear than many of the newer ones, in a way. The newer ones have a lot of options pop up just before the final battle.

It's not an opinion. I spent hours grinding in Final Fantasy games up through FFV. FFVI didn't require much grinding unless you wanted tons of magic. Dragon Warrior itself was about grinding for a while. I own the original Dragon Warrior and Dragon Warrior III. I've spent at least 50 hours just grinding in Dragon Warrior III because the monsters get ferociously hard at certain points especially if you choose to go sailing without having any clue where you're going. Heck, you couldn't even go sailing without fear of ocean monsters eating you alive unless you spent time grinding.

Back in those games, there wasn't that much strategy. Most of the strategy amounted to: Did I beat the enemy? If yes, go on. If no, grind for more levels.

Eh? I thought you wouldn't play MMORPGs due to the amount of grindings needed...

 

Anyway, RPG is a genre that I don't enjoy pretty much. Out of all the very few ones that I have played so far, the only one that I like is Persona 3, and one that I think that is okay is Kingdom Hearts. The grindings and uninteresting gameplays are usually what put me off, and I'm pretty sure it's same to people who don't touch RPGs generally. In DQVIII, the random occurence of battles are what drove me away from it (it wouldn't if the battles were more interesting, however). Even in Persona 3, I would only grind as much as to complete the quests (and to acquire Personas to fuse new ones).

In any case, I still wonder where RPG games got their name from. There are very few "role playing" in the very few RPGs that I have played. In fact, Persona 3 is the only game which I feel that there are actually any kinds of role playing (albeit in a simulation sort of way).

That's because the protagonist of Persona 3 was silent.

 

I know that, but it still doesn't answer my question (well, I didn't ask one, but...)

 

 

Because Japanese gamers aren't into actual roleplaying.  I am not sure.  I just made that up.

 



 

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Ratix240sx on 07 July 2008

Wow this thread is lame. How on earth are JRPGS overated. People bitch about JRPGS being the same thing over and over again but at the same time snatch up every shooter clone with auto targeting, every Mario clone or yearly madden revision and then say how great it is.

Every reveiwer is sure to over look the fact that shooters haven't evolved since Wolfenstein 3D, but when it comes to a JRPG suddenly being samely isn't good enough.



Words Of Wisdom on 07 July 2008
tiachopvutru said:

Eh? I thought you wouldn't play MMORPGs due to the amount of grindings needed...

In any case, I still wonder where RPG games got their name from. There are very few "role playing" in the very few RPGs that I have played. In fact, Persona 3 is the only game which I feel that there are actually any kinds of role playing (albeit in a simulation sort of way).

Correct.

You'll notice that Dragon Warrior and Dragon Warrior III are NES games.  I've long since outgrown the phase where I didn't mind grinding.

Also:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Role-playing_game#History



Riachu on 07 July 2008
Ratix240sx said:
Wow this thread is lame. How on earth are JRPGS overated. People bitch about JRPGS being the same thing over and over again but at the same time snatch up every shooter clone with auto targeting, every Mario clone or yearly madden revision and then say how great it is.

Every reveiwer is sure to over look the fact that shooters haven't evolved since Wolfenstein 3D, but when it comes to a JRPG suddenly being samely isn't good enough.

I have been noticing that.  I wonder if it has to do with the fact that FPSs are made by Americans developers and JRPGs are made by Japanese developers

 



 

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tiachopvutru on 07 July 2008
Words Of Wisdom said:
tiachopvutru said:

Eh? I thought you wouldn't play MMORPGs due to the amount of grindings needed...

In any case, I still wonder where RPG games got their name from. There are very few "role playing" in the very few RPGs that I have played. In fact, Persona 3 is the only game which I feel that there are actually any kinds of role playing (albeit in a simulation sort of way).

Correct.

You'll notice that Dragon Warrior and Dragon Warrior III are NES games.  I've long since outgrown the phase where I didn't mind grinding.

Also:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Role-playing_game#History

Are there some secrets to disliking grinding while still liking RPGs? =p

And meh, even for historical reasons, the term RPG is outdated now... It should be named something else. /pif (yea, no one is going to do that, I know)

 

 



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Riachu on 07 July 2008
tiachopvutru said:
Words Of Wisdom said:
tiachopvutru said:

Eh? I thought you wouldn't play MMORPGs due to the amount of grindings needed...

In any case, I still wonder where RPG games got their name from. There are very few "role playing" in the very few RPGs that I have played. In fact, Persona 3 is the only game which I feel that there are actually any kinds of role playing (albeit in a simulation sort of way).

Correct.

You'll notice that Dragon Warrior and Dragon Warrior III are NES games. I've long since outgrown the phase where I didn't mind grinding.

Also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Role-playing_game#History

Are there some secrets to disliking grinding while still liking RPGs? =p

And meh, even for historical reasons, the term RPG is outdated now... It should be named something else. /pif (yea, no one is going to do that, I know)

 

 

If we can't call JRPGs role playing games, what do we call them?

 



 

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