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sharky on 17 June 2007

PSP is pretty succesful. It's just everybody wants to compare it to DS. But leave DS out, it's pretty succesful.

 

I also think it will have better legs than DS. There's a lot you can in multi-media terms with such a gorgeous screen as your centerpiece. PSP will only grow as it trends toward $99.

 

Then again I hear the D-pad is broken, which would make my prime reason for wanting one, 2-D fighters, null..

 

But I mean just as a cool portable screen, leave games out altogether, it has a lot of potential. 



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Bodhesatva on 17 June 2007
sharky said:

PSP is pretty succesful. It's just everybody wants to compare it to DS. But leave DS out, it's pretty succesful.

 

I also think it will have better legs than DS. There's a lot you can in multi-media terms with such a gorgeous screen as your centerpiece. PSP will only grow as it trends toward $99.

 

Then again I hear the D-pad is broken, which would make my prime reason for wanting one, 2-D fighters, null..

 

But I mean just as a cool portable screen, leave games out altogether, it has a lot of potential.


Better legs than the DS? Wow. We're three years in to the lifecycle -- three years -- and the DS is selling better now than it was two years ago. In fact, two years ago, there were a few points where the PSP was outselling the DS on a weekly basis: now the DS is outselling the PSP 2.5:1, and has been doing so for months on end.

Again, for emphasis: we're three years into this handheld generation. The launch window is closed, and the competitors have long since left the gate. If there was ever a time when "legs" are supposed to be important, that time is right now, and the DS is still pulling farther and farther ahead.

Link for evidence:

http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=PSP&reg1=All&cons2=DS&reg2=All&cons3=PSP&reg3=All&weekly=1

As recently as February of last year, the PSP was selling more systems in a week than the DS. The systems were neck and neck for some time, and then the DS pulled away and never looked back. It's the DS that has shown legs, not the PSP. 



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CrazzyMan on 17 June 2007

just before announce of psp light, sales went up, strange. =)))



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2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far

koffieboon on 17 June 2007

Why are some people so surprised about the software sales. This list is from Gamespot and shows the releases in April and May. Please explain to me which of these games should be selling well, cause I don't see any big releases in there.

Prince of Persia Rival Swords Apr 3, 2007
Pimp My Ride Apr 3, 2007
Gundam Seed: Rengou vs. Z.A.F.T. Portable Apr 05, 2007 (JP)
Jikkyou Powerful Pro Yakyuu Portable 2 Apr 05, 2007 (JP)
Valhalla Knights Apr 17, 2007
Pocket Pool Apr 18, 2007
Isshou Asoberu Todai Shougi: Sakidzume Shogi Dojo Apr 19, 2007 (JP)
7 Wonders Apr 23, 2007
Hard Rock Casino Apr 24, 2007
Aedis Eclipse: Generation of Chaos Apr 24, 2007
The Fast and the Furious Apr 24, 2007
Minna no Chizu 2 Apr 26, 2007 (JP)
The Last Ninja April 2007 (EU)
Cube Apr 30, 2007
Ultimate Board Game Collection May 1, 2007
Winx Club: Join the Club May 7, 2007
Driver '76 May 8, 2007
Heatseeker May 8, 2007
Innocent Life: A Futuristic Harvest Moon May 15, 2007
Taito Legends Power-Up May 17, 2007
Little Aid Portable May 17, 2007 (JP)
Brooktown High: Senior Year May 22, 2007
Diner Dash: Sizzle & Serve May 22, 2007
Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End May 22, 2007
Bleach: Heat the Soul 4 May 24, 2007 (JP)
Legend of the Dragon May 29, 2007
Crush 3D Platformer May 29, 2007
Surf's Up May 30, 2007
Minna no Golf Ba May 31, 2007 (JP)



JSF on 17 June 2007
Bodhesatva said:
ckmlb said:
shams said:
Sony have also spent a lot of money on a new marketing campaign... (US at least).

I still don't really understand all this. How many people on this forum would buy a PSP, then NOT buy games for it?

Is Sony making money off PSP hardware alone?

(recent figures have shown DS:PSP software sales to be around 6:1... where hardware is closer to 2.5:1?)

This would suggest that the other functions of the PSP are paying off and are selling points especially to non gamers.


My problem with this is that the UMD format is a complete flop. This isn't just anecdotal: I know with certainty that both Toys R Us and Best Buy have drastically cut down on the number of PSP movies being sold nation wide, and I can only presume it's because they didn't sell (they certainly don't at my store). Toys R Us now carries less than half the UMD movies they did 9 months ago (not just my store -- it's mandated company wide).

This means the MP3 player and photo album are the main selling points. I'm not saying that those can't play SOME role in people's decisions, but it seems unlikely that they're so important that the PSP would have half the attach rate of the DS. I'm not saying you're wrong, Ck; I'm just saying it still doesn't seem to add up in a way that makes sense to me. 


 The reason why UMD movies don't sell is because you can convert your own movies from DVD or from video files and play them off your memory card. There's no need to buy a UMD movie unless you don't know how to use a conversion program.  In other words, just because people aren't buying UMD movies, that doesn't mean they aren't using it as a video player, like an iPod Video with a much larger screen.



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gentian on 17 June 2007

Yes the PSP has legs and so does the DS.

When was the last time the SECOND most succesful console was as successful as the PSP. Never in handhelds and when did it happen in home consoles?



JSF on 17 June 2007
sharky said:

PSP is pretty succesful. It's just everybody wants to compare it to DS. But leave DS out, it's pretty succesful.

 

I also think it will have better legs than DS. There's a lot you can in multi-media terms with such a gorgeous screen as your centerpiece. PSP will only grow as it trends toward $99.

 

Then again I hear the D-pad is broken, which would make my prime reason for wanting one, 2-D fighters, null..

 

But I mean just as a cool portable screen, leave games out altogether, it has a lot of potential. 


I play "Darkstalkers Chronicles" and "Street Fighter Alpha Max" all the time.  I have no problem pulling off moves with the D-pad.  Don't get me wrong - I have read gripes in some reviews about people not being able to do special moves - but I personally don't see the problem at all.

Regarding overall game sales, doesn't anyone ever wonder why "Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories" on the PSP sells 3.85 million copies in North America and Europe, continues to sell very well on Amazon and even outsells the version ported to the PS2 - while the next closest PSP game sells 1.4 million and "Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Stories" on the PSP only sells 1.36 million?  "Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories", if you can get the right version of it, is used to hack certain versions of PSP firmware.  If you ask me, the runaway sales of "Liberty City Stories" hints at what's going on.



windbane on 17 June 2007
Bodhesatva said:
ckmlb said:
shams said:
Sony have also spent a lot of money on a new marketing campaign... (US at least).

I still don't really understand all this. How many people on this forum would buy a PSP, then NOT buy games for it?

Is Sony making money off PSP hardware alone?

(recent figures have shown DS:PSP software sales to be around 6:1... where hardware is closer to 2.5:1?)

This would suggest that the other functions of the PSP are paying off and are selling points especially to non gamers.


My problem with this is that the UMD format is a complete flop. This isn't just anecdotal: I know with certainty that both Toys R Us and Best Buy have drastically cut down on the number of PSP movies being sold nation wide, and I can only presume it's because they didn't sell (they certainly don't at my store). Toys R Us now carries less than half the UMD movies they did 9 months ago (not just my store -- it's mandated company wide).

This means the MP3 player and photo album are the main selling points. I'm not saying that those can't play SOME role in people's decisions, but it seems unlikely that they're so important that the PSP would have half the attach rate of the DS. I'm not saying you're wrong, Ck; I'm just saying it still doesn't seem to add up in a way that makes sense to me.


I bought the PSP because it played MP3s, although I checked the game list first. I hadn't considered it before. I take it to work and play music on it a lot. Great machine. Video plays very nicely with my case, too.



Diomedes1976 on 17 June 2007

Here in my country although heavyly pirated the PSP manages to put one game in the Top Ten every now and then .Also in Japan .And after NPD data last year it was selling more than 1 million games per month .Once we changed the metodology for weekly sales the PSP software somehow vanished and appears at half the number of one year prior .And that with the machine selling better that last year and having a 30% bigger userbase .Somehow this doesnt add up .Thats what I am saying the PSP software numbers cant be right .Maybe some of the latest releases arent groundbreaking but I cant believe we havent seen a single sale for good or great games as Afterburner Black Falcon and Virtua Tennis .Zero sales for those games .I think the PSP tracking is somehow flawed .

Or look at Tekken DR .Namco declared officially one month ago that they had sold more than 1 million games yet if you look at the databases for Japan and NA it doesnt add up even 400K (and doubt Europe has outsold both combined by a 50% ).



gorgepir on 17 June 2007
windbane said:
Bodhesatva said:
ckmlb said:
shams said:
Sony have also spent a lot of money on a new marketing campaign... (US at least).

I still don't really understand all this. How many people on this forum would buy a PSP, then NOT buy games for it?

Is Sony making money off PSP hardware alone?

(recent figures have shown DS:PSP software sales to be around 6:1... where hardware is closer to 2.5:1?)

This would suggest that the other functions of the PSP are paying off and are selling points especially to non gamers.


My problem with this is that the UMD format is a complete flop. This isn't just anecdotal: I know with certainty that both Toys R Us and Best Buy have drastically cut down on the number of PSP movies being sold nation wide, and I can only presume it's because they didn't sell (they certainly don't at my store). Toys R Us now carries less than half the UMD movies they did 9 months ago (not just my store -- it's mandated company wide).

This means the MP3 player and photo album are the main selling points. I'm not saying that those can't play SOME role in people's decisions, but it seems unlikely that they're so important that the PSP would have half the attach rate of the DS. I'm not saying you're wrong, Ck; I'm just saying it still doesn't seem to add up in a way that makes sense to me.


I bought the PSP because it played MP3s, although I checked the game list first. I hadn't considered it before. I take it to work and play music on it a lot. Great machine. Video plays very nicely with my case, too.


Why didn't you get an ipod then?