Ben, can you please cover up the spoilers in your post.

I figured this was a spoiler zone hehe.

you say everything,thats all,best game ever

It's the first game I actually like more than RE4. So yes, I agree 100%

It's a great game, but I think I still like the first one (MGS) better. Some of the cut-scenes were just a little too long (and boring) for my tastes. Still, it's a great game and I hope they keep coming.

Metal Gear Solid 4 is top notch in all the important things.Graphics ,playability ,presentation ,sound ,lenght ,story.All a 10.

There are people that may prefer Tetris.Or even Nintendogs.Just to say that things are subjetive and we cant say things as "best game ever".

But MGS4 is definitely up there.Best action game of the generation ,best stealth game of the generation,better production values of the generation ,greatly improved depth and playability over its already great predecesors.It definitely is the best showcase AAAA title so far this generation.

In my list it would definitely be in the Top 3 games of all time,along Ocarina of time and FFVII.

1. No, it doesn't i own both. and if im not mistaken crysis is getting ported to ps3 anyway(so we'll have both on our system:)

2. if you havent touched the game.....

3. The cutscenes are amazing, plus they can be paused or skipped at anytime and the game would still kick ass

4. someone compile a list of 20 games with better storylines than FF6, i dare you

5. yes it is, sorta, depending on how you play

Absolutely the best game I have played yet. I don't consider myself a Sony fanboy, but if you were to call me a MGS fanboy I wouldn't be able to argue with you. I even have Solid Snake tattooed on my leg. That being said, 4 does an amazing job of completing what has amounted to a truly epic story. It has completely rounded out the MGS series, as well as including storylines from the original Metal Gear games. The cutscenes are long and many but I cannot imagine any other way of giving us that much information, and I loved them. As greenmedic88 said about the controls, I too think they are now refined to perfect, though I enjoyed each installment that came out at least 20 times over each.

I took a leisurely 16 hr playthrough the first time around, enjoying all of it, except for the little trick they play on you in the ending(I cried... no shit!) When I was finally done I sat back and let it all sink, before deciding what to do. My options were to immediately replay it or go through the entire series. So that's what I'm doing now, just finished MGS1 and now I'm on 2, then on to 3 and once again I'll play through 4. After that's done, I have to get all the weapons & emblems, though I'm not to sure about the Big Boss one, that's going to be hard.

The ONLY problem I have with the game, is that this time around it might actually be the Kojima's last.    

EDIT: @ Ben, yes the Rex vs. Ray moment was friggin awesome!!! I'm gonna have to remember to keep that save next time around so I can go straight to that fight, woohoo!

The only ones could think of is Planescape: Torment and the MGS series. I never actually played Planescape though.

lol the only person to disagree got the acronym wrong wrong twice, not that i mean to point out mistake but anyone who's seen the graphics and types as well as he seems to be able should be able to get Metal Gear Solid right