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Slimebeast said:
whatever said:
LOL. The only demographic that MS is most popular with is American teens and immature twenty somethings. All other demographics are dominated by Nintendo right now.

 

But playing Mario isn't immature?

Nice flaming.

 

IMO, playing Mario is more mature than Halo.  As for flaming, you can take it any way you like.  It's no more flaming than saying that the Wii is only for 9 year olds.



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shio said:

RPG, FPS, Strategy, Adventure, Puzzle, Board/Parlor,  Simulations, are all easily better on PC than Consoles. And PC always gets the best versions of muliplatform games, and I didn't even mention the fact that PC can easily play them with a gamepad.

The only genres Consoles have advantage is Fghting games and Driving games.

And mark my words: Console gaming is dieing, one way or the other.

 

 

Sure, I guess that's why a small company like EA decided to not put most of their games on the PC anymore? Or why some game developer was complaining that PC gaming was dead? Yep, sounds like console gaming is in deep trouble here.

I do not agree on Adventure and RPG, for the mere fact that the consoles get the best games in those genres.



whatever said:
Slimebeast said:
whatever said:
LOL. The only demographic that MS is most popular with is American teens and immature twenty somethings. All other demographics are dominated by Nintendo right now.

 

But playing Mario isn't immature?

Nice flaming.

 

IMO, playing Mario is more mature than Halo.  As for flaming, you can take it any way you like.  It's no more flaming than saying that the Wii is only for 9 year olds.

The big difference being that saying (claiming) your last sentence will get you banned here. Anyway, np... I understand your comment was directed towards Mr Greenberg.

 



RolStoppable said:
Slimebeast said:
RolStoppable said:

Wrong. PS2 launched in October 2000 and the 360 in November 2005. That's five years difference.

Oops.

Well, if CrazzyMan can get away with it, I can do it too.

So you are saying that from now on nobody has to take you serious anymore? =)

Wait! No! No, I'm not. Help!!

 



AAron Greenburgs an idiot, Just trash talking to try to put MS in good light, it aint working



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Strategyking92 said:
vaio said:
Strategyking92 said:
Cougarman said:
jake_the_fake1 said:
hit the win button on the wii long enough and you gain intelligence points, then once you level up, a simple minded casual wii owner gains the brain power to control the oh so complicated 360/ps3 controller. The final level allows them to move up to the keyboard and mouse for gaming. XD

 

wow it all makes sense now, i will try that thanks for the tip

 

 PC gaming is the ultimate form of entertainment though

 

 No it isn´t PC gaming will never be as good as console gaming and i am not talking about graphics.

The only genre that make PC better are strategy games and that can change with the wii mote.

you didn't just say that....

It's true that PC gaming doesn't get as many games as consoles, but when some do come out, they are (mostly)easy to play and fun. Thanks to the K&M or M&K.

And as for the wii & strategy games..... Has an RTS even come out for the wii yet? lol.
The wiimote is cool, but will never be as comfortable to use as the mouse and keyboard.

 

Yes I did, I´ve been a computer/pc gamer longer then a console gamer and I think the consoles beat the pc in gaming experience. Take the same game on both pc and console and the experience is always better on consoles if the game is doen properly on both platforms. PC has some better games that suits the PC better but overall console wins.

 



Vaio - "Bury me at Milanello"      R.I.P AC Milan

In the 60's, people took acid to make the world weird.
Now the world is weird  and people take Prozac  to make it normal.

If laughing is the best medicine and marijuana makes you laugh

Is marijuana the best medicine?

"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind."

“If any creator has not played Mario, then they’re probably not a good creator. That’s something I can say with 100 percent confidence. Mario is, for game creators, the development bible.

@Slimebeast. I can't quote you (damn Wii browser)

Rol has already told you you used the wrong years (and combined 2 handhelds versus 1)
I did a rough addition of 2002 (all year) and compared to 2007 (all year)

2002 PS2+GC+XB = 15.45 million.

2007 Wii+PS3+X360 = 15.15 million.

Again fewer consoles sold than last time (check the charts yourself for exact figures, I can't post them)

Handheld wise I kept with 2002 for GBA but as DS/PSP released earlier (late04/early05) I used 2006.

2002 GBA = 7.98 million
2006 PSP+DS = 9.05 million.

I don't see much significant increase.



vaio said:
Strategyking92 said:
vaio said:
Strategyking92 said:
Cougarman said:
jake_the_fake1 said:
hit the win button on the wii long enough and you gain intelligence points, then once you level up, a simple minded casual wii owner gains the brain power to control the oh so complicated 360/ps3 controller. The final level allows them to move up to the keyboard and mouse for gaming. XD

 

wow it all makes sense now, i will try that thanks for the tip

 

 PC gaming is the ultimate form of entertainment though

 

 No it isn´t PC gaming will never be as good as console gaming and i am not talking about graphics.

The only genre that make PC better are strategy games and that can change with the wii mote.

you didn't just say that....

It's true that PC gaming doesn't get as many games as consoles, but when some do come out, they are (mostly)easy to play and fun. Thanks to the K&M or M&K.

And as for the wii & strategy games..... Has an RTS even come out for the wii yet? lol.
The wiimote is cool, but will never be as comfortable to use as the mouse and keyboard.

 

Yes I did, I´ve been a computer/pc gamer longer then a console gamer and I think the consoles beat the pc in gaming experience. Take the same game on both pc and console and the experience is always better on consoles if the game is doen properly on both platforms. PC has some better games that suits the PC better but overall console wins.

 

 

 What about the keyboard and the mouse? There's so many genres where nuffin beats K&M controls - like RTS, FPS, most action adventure games and most RPGs are better with K&M than a console controller (with or without motion sensing).

 



shio said:
vaio said:
Strategyking92 said:
Cougarman said:
jake_the_fake1 said:
hit the win button on the wii long enough and you gain intelligence points, then once you level up, a simple minded casual wii owner gains the brain power to control the oh so complicated 360/ps3 controller. The final level allows them to move up to the keyboard and mouse for gaming. XD

 

wow it all makes sense now, i will try that thanks for the tip

 

 PC gaming is the ultimate form of entertainment though

 

 No it isn´t PC gaming will never be as good as console gaming and i am not talking about graphics.

The only genre that make PC better are strategy games and that can change with the wii mote.

RPG, FPS, Strategy, Adventure, Puzzle, Board/Parlor,  Simulations, are all easily better on PC than Consoles. And PC always gets the best versions of muliplatform games, and I didn't even mention the fact that PC can easily play them with a gamepad.

The only genres Consoles have advantage is Fghting games and Driving games.

And mark my words: Console gaming is dieing, one way or the other.

 

 

If the game is done properly on both plattforms I think consoles wins hands down when it comes to experiencing the game in all those genres except for Simulators & Strategy games.

Strategy games could soon be taken of that list if someone uses the Wii mote or it´s coming clones properly.

Simulators might also be taken of that list IF one can make proper use of motion sensing and steering a car in a game to make it as if it you were steering a car.

The fact that you can play pc games with a pad changes nothing since you can´t get the same experience as consoles from sitting in front of monitor as you can sitting in your living room and yes you can hook up a PC to be able to do the same as a console and sit in your living room with a pad and so on but I am not the one to do all the work to hook everything up so I can get a console like experience when i just as easy could just hook up a console.

 



Vaio - "Bury me at Milanello"      R.I.P AC Milan

In the 60's, people took acid to make the world weird.
Now the world is weird  and people take Prozac  to make it normal.

If laughing is the best medicine and marijuana makes you laugh

Is marijuana the best medicine?

"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind."

“If any creator has not played Mario, then they’re probably not a good creator. That’s something I can say with 100 percent confidence. Mario is, for game creators, the development bible.

TWRoO said:
@Slimebeast. I can't quote you (damn Wii browser)

Rol has already told you you used the wrong years (and combined 2 handhelds versus 1)
I did a rough addition of 2002 (all year) and compared to 2007 (all year)

2002 PS2+GC+XB = 15.45 million.

2007 Wii+PS3+X360 = 15.15 million.

Again fewer consoles sold than last time (check the charts yourself for exact figures, I can't post them)

Handheld wise I kept with 2002 for GBA but as DS/PSP released earlier (late04/early05) I used 2006.

2002 GBA = 7.98 million
2006 PSP+DS = 9.05 million.

I don't see much significant increase.


(can you see gif smilies with that browser?)

Ok, I stand corrected.

But damn, I still can't get rid of the feeling that console unit sales have increased hugely (both in America and elsewhere).

Perhaps this is how it feels to be CrazzyMan?