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Forums - Gaming - who screwed up more while winning there previous gens,ninteno or sony?

brute said:

nes and snes were the winners of there gen and so were ps1,2 but the third consoles have lost the top spot,so who you think screwed up more.

ninty was so ignorant with the third parties and sony with its ridiculous price,so who do you think screwed up more

Sony. And it wasn't just the price. It was the fact that those who sucked up the price had nothing but resistance to play for almost 1 year. That generated more negativity than anything else.  Coupled with the port gimps, it spelled doom for the ps3 that people had paid for an expensive piece of junk!It was also the xbots #1 trump card. All I used to hear was "there are no games on ps3". When I purchased my 60gb from gamestop, I remember the clerk asking me why I was wasting my money, suggesting that his own ps3 just collects dust while his 360 got tons of playtime. I didn't have as much of a problem as people like him did because I still play ps2 and ps1 games. For those who don't, it must have been hell indeed!

As for nintendo, Sega was never really a threat. Its just a small company even smaller than nintendo but they couldn't possibly have been prepared for the juggernaut that was sony! They've finally adjusted to sony's presence though and left them behind to battle M$.

 



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Pristine: The PS3 didn't just have Resistance for one year, it had plenty of other good games. Hell, at least it had more than 2 games at launch unlike the 64. Mind you, both those games were very good but there was very little variety to be had. So as for games, I think the two consoles performed equally.



 

 

I'd say Nintendo. Yes, Sony may have lost a lot of money but Nintendo lost almost all third parties.



 

^yeah and to this day they still dont have them,but that might change soon



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I always hear that nintendo makes money so it has to be sony, who I hear lose money at times and when they lose it, they really lose it...(3.3 billion o.o). If sony wasn't a huge company then they may have folded already while Nintendo alone just keeps going. Sony/MS both I think would have folded if they weren't huge companies, both fail at games.

I think dominating the portable gaming arena helps nintendo be more flexible in their console strategy which lets them take risks, who knew how the Wii would have been received.



CD medium didn't sell the PSX it was the games that were on it - duh =P

If Nintendo did screw up it was with the SNES - they fell into the Me too crap with Sega which then churned out the ultimate Me too system in PSX.

If anything loss of 3rd party support is was really hurt Nintendo - and 3rd parties lost touch with the demographic of gamers that bought NES and SNES games (most of them) while Nintendo kept these guys.

Isn't wierd that the slogans "Two game cubes duct taped together" is as childish as "Sega does what nintendont!" Yea I said it - those sheeps are Sega fans and their offspring =P.

Anyway No Nintendo didn't screw up really as they never lost money, like Montana said, they made profit still, if anyone's screwed up it's been Microsoft.. but yea Sony screwed up also as they actually made less money than me last year. HAHA!



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MontanaHatchet said:
Pristine: The PS3 didn't just have Resistance for one year, it had plenty of other good games. Hell, at least it had more than 2 games at launch unlike the 64. Mind you, both those games were very good but there was very little variety to be had. So as for games, I think the two consoles performed equally.

What other game was good and wasn't already on another system...my memory fails? The thing is, the n64 and gamecube still brought profit and still kept the hardcore nintendo fans because they still had zelda, mario, metroid, smash bros and the rest.

Ps3 came with a hefty price that Kutaragi justified as something worth paying yet it had nothing to show for it at the time. This gradually built up hate for the ps3 especially in the US where the 360 was already doing fairly well. There were many, especially in the US, who waited for the ps3 launch to decide what next-gen console to buy who ended up buying a 360 because of the ps3's bad rep and sony is deep in the red and losing their exclusives. I'm as hardcore as it gets and would patiently wait for "delayed" exclusives to hit the dualshock (it actually saves me money lol) but as you can tell from patronizing these forums, most aren't!

 



"Dr. Tenma, according to you, lives are equal. That's why I live today. But you must have realised it by now...the only thing people are equal in is death"---Johann Liebert (MONSTER)

"WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives"---Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler

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