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As a gay guy I've read through most of the posts. Thanks go to those who are supportive. I've heard all the arguments before and everyone is entitled to their opinion. I'm not a religious person and indeed see certain religious affiliations attempting to block any advance in gay rights.

A combination of a strong European court and UK government mean that I can now work or serve in the armed forces without fear of having to hide a part of myself. I can now form a legal and last relationship with my partner along with all the benefits and protections that brings (10 years this September). We can be considered for adoption if we wanted. We have an equal age of consent and are protected by a goods and services act. We are lucky in the UK that we have achieved very nearly full equality (in the eyes of the law) in such a short time.

The UK government has declared that 6% (3.6M) of the population here defines themselves as gay or lesbian.

The advances in gay rights in the UK have made a huge positive impact on so many lives (including mine) and that's a good thing. If some people don't like that then.......they're entitled to their opinion at the ballot box.



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I don't have any problems with gay people. I mean, I don't have gay friends and I don't want to make friendship with them. They can live their lives that way if they want...

I had friends... good friends, than after many years, they confessed that they are gay. I try to help them, try to convince them to go to church. But they didn't wanted. So I don't want any more friendship with them.

But that is wrong... I don't want to sound like a bad people, but being gay is wrong. Why? Because is a sin. And is a sin that can be fix if you go to the church. There are a lot of testimonials about gay people that know that is wrong, and God has helped them.

People don't born gay. And people can change.

I'm methodist, by the way.

And this is a very delicated topic, so I don't want me to judge me for this post.



Homosexuality is okay for as long as the third sex don't abuse heterosexuals especially the young kids. In my place of birth, gays pay young str8 guys who are in need of money for favors. That is not right.



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My problem with the gay guy saying he wants the freedom to be gay is that we must be equal in saying that the indivudal such as the Peadophile should also be free to do as he sees right.




jheco05 said:
Homosexuality is okay for as long as the third sex don't abuse heterosexuals especially the young kids. In my place of birth, gays pay young str8 guys who are in need of money for favors. That is not right.

But payment for favors to young kids of the opposite sex is okay where you were born? That is not right.



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Million said:
My problem with the gay guy saying he wants the freedom to be gay is that we must be equal in saying that the indivudal such as the Peadophile should also be free to do as he sees right.

A pedophile is a fucking rapist. A gay person is not by definition a rapist, but just some one with a different sexual preference. In order for a pedophile to do what he wants, lives must be damaged. That is not the case for two consenting homosexuals. That post reeks of such gross ignorance that it is terrifying. A century ago you would have been saying that black people aren't really human, and that if we give rights to black people we have to give rights to monkeys too. The moral zeitgiest marches on, and your kind are being left behind just as the klan members and their christian supporters were decades ago. The ignorance that anti-gay rights members show is absolutely horrifying, because I had I suppose naively believed that as a country we had moved past such ignorant bigotry. There is still work left to be done though. Once again, just as in times past religion must either evolve in it's doctrines or become morally deficient.

 



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DMeisterJ said:

It's not like you have to sit down and sign a paper and choose which sex you like.  It's an unconscious decision that's made based off of what you have been exposed to in life, and whether you like male genetalia or female genetaila. 

Answer me this:  Do you think that if a kid grew up in a really sheltered life, and never ever heard of a man being with a woman, and only ever saw his two fathers (or mothers) and never saw a man and a woman together, or been exposed to the notion that that was the "norm", that he'd like men or women?  I choose to believe that he would also be most comfortable in the presence of another man, and therefore choose men as his sexual preference.

 

It's definitely not about genitalia.  I know women who are straight, but would rather masturbate to photos of nude women instead of nude men, because they think penises look gross and breasts look great.  However, they only have sex with men and only date men and only fall in love with men, and only want to marry a man and have kids with him.  Does that make them straight or gay or bi or what?

The exposure has nothing to do with it.  Are you arguing that it's a virus spreading throughout society, and to stop it we need to hide it from kids until they're already straight and it's okay for them to see it?

I'd think th at your female friends are weird, and definitely not in the norm (nothing's wrong with that though). I happen to think that sexuality should be presented to kids as early as possible, so that they can make a judgement whether they like the same sex or not, rather than parents not bringing the subject up, since most parents don't want gay kids. 

I don't think I'm arguing that it's a virus or anything like that, just arguing that you are able to make a decision to like, or not like a certain sex, but that the decision is heavily influenced by people you are around, and the information (or lack thereof) that you are given on the subject.  I personally never even knew that guys could have sex with other guys for pleasure until I was 13.  At that point, I had already discovered the wonders of the female anatomy, and grew enamored with it, and no one could tell me otherwise that I wasn't supposed to like girls.

 

by your explanation if you had been exposed to gay sex first, you would have been gay?

If I had been exposed to gay sex and only gay sex first, and it was the "norm" and all I've been around?  Then yes, I'd probably be gay.  If it was presented as well as being straight was presented, then it'd have been a decision that I would have had to make.

If that were true, then we'd have way more gay kids in gay communities like West Hollywood.  However, the kids still come out straight over 90% of the time, even when they're born in a city with a huge gay population and an all-gay city council.

Exactly.

I'll give an example of my personal experience, in Greece (or at least in my city) if someone is attracted to the same sex life's really hard for him/her. The first time i saw a gay person in my city was late last year, when a friend confessed it to me.

I've never had any contact with gay people just because everyone here is closeted, still i'm attracted to both sexes even though i've never been exposed to gay sex.

What you're describing DMeister doesn't make sense, because i'm certain i'm not the only person on earth with this experience.

 



 

Million said:
My problem with the gay guy saying he wants the freedom to be gay is that we must be equal in saying that the indivudal such as the Peadophile should also be free to do as he sees right.

Please don't bring up the old gay=pedophile connection. Gay adults wanting equal treatment is not the same as people (straight or gay) wanting to rape children. It's an argument I've heard many times before and I was disgusted by it the first time.

Fernando said:
I don't have any problems with gay people. I mean, I don't have gay friends and I don't want to make friendship with them. They can live their lives that way if they want...

I had friends... good friends, than after many years, they confessed that they are gay. I try to help them, try to convince them to go to church. But they didn't wanted. So I don't want any more friendship with them.

But that is wrong... I don't want to sound like a bad people, but being gay is wrong. Why? Because is a sin. And is a sin that can be fix if you go to the church. There are a lot of testimonials about gay people that know that is wrong, and God has helped them.

People don't born gay. And people can change.

I'm methodist, by the way.

And this is a very delicated topic, so I don't want me to judge me for this post.

Your 'good friends' trusted and confided in you and probably wanted some support. You tried to force your beliefs on them then abandoned them when they needed you. You judged and abandoned them then but ask that no-one judges you?

Million said:
My problem with the heterosexual guy saying he wants the freedom to be heterosexual is that we must be equal in saying that the indivudal such as the Peadophile should also be free to do as he sees right.

Fixed. Wow, that's some amazing slippery slope you've constructed there!