HappySqurriel said: leo-j said: HappySqurriel said: Right ... Your argument that those games completely destroy those games visually is imprecise and impossible to verify. Regardless, we haven't seen a released game for the PS3 which has the same technical challenges (large open world for oblivion as an example) which demonstrates higher quality visuals though ...      Oblivion runs better on the PS3 than on the 360, better lighting, textures, framerate, less loading times etc.. Also, yes its not released yet but you can count FAR CRY2 as a game with  a large open workd with significanly better graphics than oblivion.   Now all it has to do is have a higher frame rate at a similar visual quality to PC hardware that is 2 years old for you to have a point at all

Oh but I thought the PS3 version was the best? Oh its not it cant be PC>>everything.

 

leo-j said: HappySqurriel said: Right ... Your argument that those games completely destroy those games visually is imprecise and impossible to verify. Regardless, we haven't seen a released game for the PS3 which has the same technical challenges (large open world for oblivion as an example) which demonstrates higher quality visuals though ...      Oblivion runs better on the PS3 than on the 360, better lighting, textures, framerate, less loading times etc.. Also, yes its not released yet but you can count FAR CRY2 as a game with  a large open workd with significanly better graphics than oblivion.

 

Yes, but still fails behind the PC version...

Farcry 2 suffers from framedrops, and a lot of pop-in in open areas...

FJ-Warez said: leo-j said: HappySqurriel said: Right ... Your argument that those games completely destroy those games visually is imprecise and impossible to verify. Regardless, we haven't seen a released game for the PS3 which has the same technical challenges (large open world for oblivion as an example) which demonstrates higher quality visuals though ...      Oblivion runs better on the PS3 than on the 360, better lighting, textures, framerate, less loading times etc.. Also, yes its not released yet but you can count FAR CRY2 as a game with  a large open workd with significanly better graphics than oblivion.   Yes, but still fails behind the PC version... Farcry 2 suffers from framedrops, and a lot of pop-in in open areas...

Im not comparing it to the PC though, you see he is comparing it to the PC, and is bringing in the PC to this.

Im comparing it to the XBOX 360.

 

leo-j said: FJ-Warez said: leo-j said: HappySqurriel said: Right ... Your argument that those games completely destroy those games visually is imprecise and impossible to verify. Regardless, we haven't seen a released game for the PS3 which has the same technical challenges (large open world for oblivion as an example) which demonstrates higher quality visuals though ...      Oblivion runs better on the PS3 than on the 360, better lighting, textures, framerate, less loading times etc.. Also, yes its not released yet but you can count FAR CRY2 as a game with  a large open workd with significanly better graphics than oblivion.   Yes, but still fails behind the PC version... Farcry 2 suffers from framedrops, and a lot of pop-in in open areas... Im not comparing it to the PC though, you see he is comparing it to the PC, and is bringing in the PC to this. Im comparing it to the XBOX 360.

Well then let refrase it...

Yes, but due to longer dev time (A full year)...

Both version suffer from the same...

 

I would beg to differ. The Nintendo games have much higher production values than other Wii games and therefore they outsell them by a huge margin.

Nintendo changed the game by targeting new customers: casual gamers and social gamers. (The only game areas where non Nintendo Wii games are doing really well)

It will be interesting next gen, when all three competitors have their own motion controllers and the playing field has been leveled.





I am pretty sure that the power of the PS4 won't be double the PS3. More like ten times as powerful. (Again Moore's law strikes again). I am pretty sure that the PS4 will not cost 800$ to make when it comes out but it will be much more powerful than the Ps3. I mean they used the PS3 to kill HD-DVD and including BluRay was a very costly way to make this happen.



Of course, every console will have innovative input methods in some way. Every console will try to woo casual gamers. But third-party developers are still making the biggest part of their revenue with classic, high-budget PS360 games so the world has not turned upside down. Nintendo brought new people to gaming, for the rest the old rules apply. High-Budget games like Call of Duty4, GTA4, MGS4, Halo3 sell huge numbers and bring in lots of money. This won't change in the next generation either.