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starcraft said:
masterb8tr said:
my guess is
1.wii
2.ps3
3. 360

L O L

 

 

 

 

And I would say the 360 will have the most million sellers with ease.



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People may be surprised with how fast Wii can catch up, especially since the perception is right now that 360 is stretching its lead.

Folks who have watched the database carefully may have noticed 2 things recently. First of all, a big database update for DS put a whole slew of games across critical marks, just a few months ago... And second, in last week's data, Wii added 11 500K sellers. So there are ways for a gap of 24 titles to disappear very quickly.

For that first point... If you doubt that there could potentially be a backlog of undertracked/no "others" data Wii million-sellers, remember that Nintendo announced there was 36 Wii million-shippers at the end of September. With most of the holiday season gone, VGC still is only to 34. (You can blame "shipments, not sales" too, of course.)

I think of it like this. Wii is ahead at one end of the spectrum with 10m sellers. These massive mega-sellers are made possible by the huge install base. It is ahead at the other end of the spectrum with 10K sellers. The massive amount of games with at least a tiny amount of sales is due to the higher total amount of games. 360 is ahead for most of the points in the middle. This represents a balance between the install base and the amount of titles; third parties as a whole release a safe amount of games so each game can sell a safe amount given the known, and linearly growing install base.

Wii will take a long time to find that balance. The huge sales of the system will result in a flood of too many titles. Misunderstanding of Wii's strategy will keep games from competing with Nintendo's 10m sellers so that more games total reach a mid-level sales threshold. But eventually, the two forces of install base and amount of games will be too overwhelming, and Wii will pull ahead of 360 at virtually every sales level.

The long and short of it is, nothing I have seen in the last few months has altered my perception of how this race is shaping up. Principles are not subject to circumstances, and the principles are still in Wii's favor.



"[Our former customers] are unable to find software which they WANT to play."
"The way to solve this problem lies in how to communicate what kind of games [they CAN play]."

Satoru Iwata, Nintendo President. Only slightly paraphrased.

I said it before and I'll say it again.

Wii > 360 > PS3



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Wii = XBox 360 + PS3



numonex said:
Wii = XBox 360 + PS3

 

Don't be silly...

 

360>Wii>PS3



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Erik Aston said:
People may be surprised with how fast Wii can catch up, especially since the perception is right now that 360 is stretching its lead.

Folks who have watched the database carefully may have noticed 2 things recently. First of all, a big database update for DS put a whole slew of games across critical marks, just a few months ago... And second, in last week's data, Wii added 11 500K sellers. So there are ways for a gap of 24 titles to disappear very quickly.

For that first point... If you doubt that there could potentially be a backlog of undertracked/no "others" data Wii million-sellers, remember that Nintendo announced there was 36 Wii million-shippers at the end of September. With most of the holiday season gone, VGC still is only to 34. (You can blame "shipments, not sales" too, of course.)

I think of it like this. Wii is ahead at one end of the spectrum with 10m sellers. These massive mega-sellers are made possible by the huge install base. It is ahead at the other end of the spectrum with 10K sellers. The massive amount of games with at least a tiny amount of sales is due to the higher total amount of games. 360 is ahead for most of the points in the middle. This represents a balance between the install base and the amount of titles; third parties as a whole release a safe amount of games so each game can sell a safe amount given the known, and linearly growing install base.

Wii will take a long time to find that balance. The huge sales of the system will result in a flood of too many titles. Misunderstanding of Wii's strategy will keep games from competing with Nintendo's 10m sellers so that more games total reach a mid-level sales threshold. But eventually, the two forces of install base and amount of games will be too overwhelming, and Wii will pull ahead of 360 at virtually every sales level.

The long and short of it is, nothing I have seen in the last few months has altered my perception of how this race is shaping up. Principles are not subject to circumstances, and the principles are still in Wii's favor.

These 10 million sellers are the reason the Wii isn't closing the gap.

Months over months the same title top the Wii charts, whereas new title keep topping the 360 charts ensuring the 360 has a steady supply of new million sellers.

 

As long as Wii owners keep purchasing the same 3 titles ( Mario Kart, Wii Fit, Wii Play), the Wii will not close the gap...

 



PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !

PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !

Ail said:
Erik Aston said:
People may be surprised with how fast Wii can catch up, especially since the perception is right now that 360 is stretching its lead.

Folks who have watched the database carefully may have noticed 2 things recently. First of all, a big database update for DS put a whole slew of games across critical marks, just a few months ago... And second, in last week's data, Wii added 11 500K sellers. So there are ways for a gap of 24 titles to disappear very quickly.

For that first point... If you doubt that there could potentially be a backlog of undertracked/no "others" data Wii million-sellers, remember that Nintendo announced there was 36 Wii million-shippers at the end of September. With most of the holiday season gone, VGC still is only to 34. (You can blame "shipments, not sales" too, of course.)

I think of it like this. Wii is ahead at one end of the spectrum with 10m sellers. These massive mega-sellers are made possible by the huge install base. It is ahead at the other end of the spectrum with 10K sellers. The massive amount of games with at least a tiny amount of sales is due to the higher total amount of games. 360 is ahead for most of the points in the middle. This represents a balance between the install base and the amount of titles; third parties as a whole release a safe amount of games so each game can sell a safe amount given the known, and linearly growing install base.

Wii will take a long time to find that balance. The huge sales of the system will result in a flood of too many titles. Misunderstanding of Wii's strategy will keep games from competing with Nintendo's 10m sellers so that more games total reach a mid-level sales threshold. But eventually, the two forces of install base and amount of games will be too overwhelming, and Wii will pull ahead of 360 at virtually every sales level.

The long and short of it is, nothing I have seen in the last few months has altered my perception of how this race is shaping up. Principles are not subject to circumstances, and the principles are still in Wii's favor.

These 10 million sellers are the reason the Wii isn't closing the gap.

Months over months the same title top the Wii charts, whereas new title keep topping the 360 charts ensuring the 360 has a steady supply of new million sellers.

 

As long as Wii owners keep purchasing the same 3 titles ( Mario Kart, Wii Fit, Wii Play), the Wii will not close the gap...

 

 

Nintendo has hit a bit of a hiccup in releasing new software. I suspect Pikmin 3, Punch-Out!, etc. will be million sellers next year. 



^I don't think we will see Pikmin 3 next year. Most of the upcoming million sellers will be third party. I suspect 2 or 3 from Nintendo next year, not more. The GC remakes will NOT sell a million.



zleep said:
^I don't think we will see Pikmin 3 next year. Most of the upcoming million sellers will be third party. I suspect 2 or 3 from Nintendo next year, not more. The GC remakes will NOT sell a million.

 

I think you'll see Pikmin 3 next year for sure. Wii Sports Resort and the inevitable Mario Party 9 are also going to be million sellers. 

If third parties want more million sellers -- make better games. Simple as that. 

Red Steel 2 w/Wii Motion Plus support if it's actually decent I could see cracking a million. 



Of course Red Steel 2 will be a million seller. As for the Nintendo games, I rather be more cautious about confirming as official. Nintendo may have a few surprises, but until they are announced, you can't be sure of anything. And third parties will have tons of million sellers mainly because of the userbase. Even crappy games are selling good, so it doesnt matter if they are quality or not, most will sell decent. If they are quality, then better, but that's not the problem, the problem is that 3rd party devs need to advertise and hype their games if they want stellar sales, just look at what Nintendo managed. Even Crapnival Games sold almost 3 million with a decent ad campaign!