Gballzack said: ckmlb said: Gballzack said: ckmlb said: Gballzack said: ckmlb said: Gballzack said: ckmlb said: Gballzack said: ckmlb said: Gballzack said:   I have been more reserved and well mannered than ever before after my ban and have participated as objectively as possible (outside of reserved sarcasm) to any of the threads. You're just trying to pick a fight. Simple as that. The objective contributions of Gballzack over time: 1. ' Nintendo gets sued just as much as either Microsoft or Sony over such issues. It's just more news worthy with Nintendo since their Patented Controller is one of its most unique features. Nintendo will settle out of court like they have before for pennies on the dollar, no biggie. What a surprise to see who's thread this is. :)' 2. 'Obviously the market agrees too because we can clearly see the PS3 sales taking off in the last couple of weeks, I guess it was only a matter of time before the consumer came around and realized the superior system... oh wait... their sales haven't taken off... my bad... sorry... Didn't mean to get your hopes up.' 3. 'ckmlb said: I heard 15000 first day sales so it's gonna be a minor hit probably. Of course, why would a game ever do good on the Wii right?' 4. 'Might I also remind everyone here too that Soul Calibur II for the Gamecube sold the best of the three versions. And Soul Calibur III only sould one fourth the number of copies that that Soul Calibur II did. Again, another declining franchise for the PS360, congratulations.' and that was preceded by this like 3 posts before, a complete 180 degree change from 'would be nice to have on Wii' to 'dying franchise that sucks': 'it would be nice to see a downgraded Soul Callibur 4 port, but since we already have Legends comming out as a consolation prize, we may not see 4 at all. Oh well, another red water game to be lost in the blue ocean.' 5. 'Banjo Kazooie three will probably be a dissapointment like the xbox Konker games' 6. 'It's going to be an FPS' in reference to a 360/PS3 game that no one knows what genre it will be. also same topic: 'Cause that's what the 360/PS3 need to diversify their their shrinking demographic... more First Person Shooters...' 7. 'Both will lose.' In reference to who will win the Blu Ray vs HD DVD format war. Many posts before these but this is as far as I can check since the ban. But these never portray anything more than opinions and don't attack anyone directly. You on the otherhand attack other people's opinions directly. 1. Am I wrong? :) 2. Was that such an innapropriate repsonse to a thread that was flame bate to begin with? 3. Am i wrong? :) 4. Am I wrong? :) 5. Is that such an unrealistic expectation given Rare's performance over the last five years? Furthermore was I the only one to express such sentiments in that thread? 6. So saying games developed by a man famous for making FPSs such as Doom is trolling. Huh. 7. Yes because pointing out the lack of demand and market penetration of HD disc formats obviously makes me a troll. How dare anyone choose anything other than blu-Ray as the supreme god of disc formats.

 1. How is it biased that I point this news????? What the hell is wrong with you? I can't post news of Nintendo getting sued? 

2. How the hell is that thread flame bate? how? tell me, you can't have a positive thread about the PS3?

3. Did you see the actual sales of the game first week? 21,000 my prediction was even higher than that so what the fuck are you talking about? I said a minor hit as in it will sell well, better than it actually sold.

4. You said that it would be nice to have SC IV on Wii then said it was shit... Do you have a really short memory or something?

5. You make this claim with no basis, I guess for sure it will suck cause Conker sucked...

6. You have no proof whatsoever that it is an FPS you made the claim to troll saying PS3 and 360 are FPS consoles...

7. How can you claim both formats will lose when the question was which will win? For trolling purposes it works though... 

1. "The point wasn't to isolate him, but to show I wasn't isolated, which was his aim."
==> sorry but when you say
"Everyone else in this thread agree FF is going down the shitter"
you obviously isolate "ckmlb"

2. "Show me one thread where I've unjustly defended the Wii or attacked Sony since returning from my Ban."

==> in fact, you know
we all have a tendency to defend the console wii prefer ...
What i just say, is that I know you prefer the wii and you have a tendency to defend her (and it is your right)
BUT, the threshold between a "defender" and a "troll" is quite, let say ... subjective
look, your "unjustly" just shows at which point it is subjective
In fact, the first post of "ckmlb" against you :
"Maybe because they are not on your console of choice? "
was quite soft ... you could just have answered him without using the "troll" word
(to not bring oxygen to the fire)

well, whatever, you don't have answer me with "bad word" so it is ok

about FF, I aggry that SE goes in the wrong direction
even if they go back to another battle system
they have to change the character type (I don't care of 13 year old boy !!! (even if I love Fran ... what a voice !)
they have to create another world, let's say, a DARKER world
(FFVII world was great in my opinion)

ckmlb said:  1. How is it biased that I point this news????? What the hell is wrong with you? I can't post news of Nintendo getting sued?  2. How the hell is that thread flame bate? how? tell me, you can't have a positive thread about the PS3? 3. Did you see the actual sales of the game first week? 21,000 my prediction was even higher than that so what the fuck are you talking about? I said a minor hit as in it will sell well, better than it actually sold. 4. You said that it would be nice to have SC IV on Wii then said it was shit... Do you have a really short memory or something? 5. You make this claim with no basis, I guess for sure it will suck cause Conker sucked... 6. You have no proof whatsoever that it is an FPS you made the claim to troll saying PS3 and 360 are FPS consoles... 7. How can you claim both formats will lose when the question was which will win? For trolling purposes it works though...

1. When did I say it was biased? I merely commented on you being the thread starter? Someone else brought up the issue of bias in commenting on you owning a Wii which you followed up with an attack on me. You made the first direct attack in that thread, not me. Again, another case where you're the instigator. *shakes head*

2. Funny how pro PS3 threads always manage to double as anti-everything else threads. Funny how every praise for the PS3 comes conveniently with a slame for the Wii or 360.

3. I merely made a passing comment, what value you chose to attribute to it was your own doing not mine.

4. I didn't say it would be shit, do you have a quote of me saying that? I merely said there was little to anticipate given the franchises track record. I would still like it to be on the Wii, but that doesn't mean it will sell well or be a great game. Was I wrong in saying the GC version of Soul Callibur II sold the best? Is it so wrong to look at something unbiasely.

5. No basis? Grabbed by the Ghoulies and Conkers were flops, that seems like pretty good basis to me. Again, I was not alone on this sentiment in the thread, stop trying to act like my post was something special there.

6. I never said I had any proof, I merely illustrated I was pretty sure it would be an FPS because of who was working on it, I don't know how you turn that into me attacking the PS360. Is it wrong to assume the man who is famous for Doom would be making another FPS for two consoles with strong FPS underbase?

7. Because it was within the topic of the thread. I don't see a rule anywhere on this forum that states in a thread which asks a question, you can only respond "yes or no".

A bit paranoid aren't we, why do you think everyone is out to get you? Again might I point out your dodging the issue in this thread we're currently in right now. Is all you can do is fall back on other threads to defend yourself?

So you made a series of passing comments and you have no proof of some of your claims, so why make these posts then in those cases?

I will give you the Banjo argument although you could turn up totally wrong and shouldn't assume anything.

What is the issue of the thread? The issue became your claims that I am biased and I am counter claiming that you are the biased one and I am not biased against any of the systems.

Anyway, this is the end of the debate for me as I am off to see the wizard.

Good luck with your passing comments and no proof posting ;)

I never read all the posts, so don't flame if they had been said before.

1: No major mini games, i expected something better than blitzball, but nothing.
2: The fighting felt odd at the start but it gets to the point where you don't even have to do anything, just set up the charcters to do it all.
3: That little gay kid, the kid that sometimes joined your party, i could'nt stand his voice, so i alwaysd killed him when he was around :) that was alot of fun.
4: Not enough CG scenes, plus you can not watch them over again like you could in FFX.

But comparing it to other RPG's it is very good, its just not FF good.

ckmlb said: 1. So you made a series of passing comments and you have no proof of some of your claims, so why make these posts then in those cases? 2. I will give you the Banjo argument although you could turn up totally wrong and shouldn't assume anything. 3. What is the issue of the thread? The issue became your claims that I am biased and I am counter claiming that you are the biased one and I am not biased against any of the systems. 4. Anyway, this is the end of the debate for me as I am off to see the wizard. Good luck with your passing comments and no proof posting ;)

1. I wasn't aware proof was required to have an opinion or voice it as such.

2. Why not if the thread very nature is about what people think about an upcomming game? Isn't stating your opinion of how it could turn out kind of the point?

3. The issue was you making a troll attack on a comment i made that was nothing in itself unique, the situation spiralling out of control then you trying to use quotes from other threads to hide your sullied mistake in this one. Play it however you like, but the fact remains, you said something stupid in making an uneeded direct attack on me, I called you on it, and you freaked. Just appologize already, I promise I'll forgive you.

4. Oh you mean like stating opinions? Yeah, I know its a crazy concept but I suppose there are people out there that have inclinations or thoughts that by their very nature don't require proof, but hey, what do I know.

Dude... Those are all the reasons why I loved this game. I know I enjoy my 100 floor dungeons

Gballzack said: ckmlb said: 1. So you made a series of passing comments and you have no proof of some of your claims, so why make these posts then in those cases? 2. I will give you the Banjo argument although you could turn up totally wrong and shouldn't assume anything. 3. What is the issue of the thread? The issue became your claims that I am biased and I am counter claiming that you are the biased one and I am not biased against any of the systems. 4. Anyway, this is the end of the debate for me as I am off to see the wizard. Good luck with your passing comments and no proof posting ;) 1. I wasn't aware proof was required to have an opinion or voice it as such. 2. Why not if all I'm stating is an opinion? If the thread is about what people think about an upcomming game, isn't stating your opinion of how it could turn out kind of the point? 3. The issue was you making a troll attack on a comment i made that was nothing in itself unique, the situation spiralling out of control then you trying to use quotes from other threads to hide your sullied mistake in this one. Just appologize already, I promise I'll forgive you. 4. Oh you mean like stating opinions? Yeah, I know its a crazy concept but I suppose there are people out there that have inclinations or thoughts that by their very nature don't require proof, but hey, what do I know.

 You state opinions as proof when you claim a game is going to be an FPS without knowing...

Just cause you state opinions you can't just come on and bash consoles with under the guise of having an opinion. 

I thought you were done debating?

ckmlb said: Gballzack said: ckmlb said: 1. So you made a series of passing comments and you have no proof of some of your claims, so why make these posts then in those cases? 2. I will give you the Banjo argument although you could turn up totally wrong and shouldn't assume anything. 3. What is the issue of the thread? The issue became your claims that I am biased and I am counter claiming that you are the biased one and I am not biased against any of the systems. 4. Anyway, this is the end of the debate for me as I am off to see the wizard. Good luck with your passing comments and no proof posting ;) 1. I wasn't aware proof was required to have an opinion or voice it as such. 2. Why not if all I'm stating is an opinion? If the thread is about what people think about an upcomming game, isn't stating your opinion of how it could turn out kind of the point? 3. The issue was you making a troll attack on a comment i made that was nothing in itself unique, the situation spiralling out of control then you trying to use quotes from other threads to hide your sullied mistake in this one. Just appologize already, I promise I'll forgive you. 4. Oh you mean like stating opinions? Yeah, I know its a crazy concept but I suppose there are people out there that have inclinations or thoughts that by their very nature don't require proof, but hey, what do I know.  1. You state opinions as proof when you claim a game is going to be an FPS without knowing... 2. Just cause you state opinions you can't just come on and bash consoles with under the guise of having an opinion.

1. I never stated anything as proof. I merely said it would be an FPS in a "you know its going to be an FPS" gest, sorry you took it to be a literal statment that challenged all in its wake.

2. There you go making outlandish generalizations again. You should really try being more polite to peole.

Hmmm, I thought you said you were done debating.