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Mnementh said:

Congratulations Microsoft. Now is the question: who will reach 15 million first, XBOX 360 or Wii? It depends on holidays, Halo 3 and Super Mario Galaxy I think. Interesting race!


The only reason the Wii hasn't shifted 30 million consoles already is because Nintendo can't make 30 million consoles that fast. This race is over.



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NJ5 said:
CrazzyMan said:
1,5 year and only 10 mln.
yeah, great..

When do you think the PS3 will reach 10 million?


someday.. someday =))

depends on GT5, MGS4, FFXIII, KZ2 releases. =) Sooner those games are released, sooner 10 mln. will be reached. :)



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2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far

NJ5 said:
CrazzyMan said:
1,5 year and only 10 mln.
yeah, great..

When do you think the PS3 will reach 10 million?


At the moment, on a launch-aligned basis, PS3 and 360 are tracking fairly identically.  The Hardware Comparison Charts contain data for the "Other" region now, right?  I remember that for a short period it was only NA+Japan.

 



fatcharlie said:

At the moment, on a launch-aligned basis, PS3 and 360 are tracking fairly identically. The Hardware Comparison Charts contain data for the "Other" region now, right? I remember that for a short period it was only NA+Japan.

 


I looked at that also, but I don't think that trend will continue because the 360 will pull away once it has a price drop. There's a pretty substantial gap between the two already at $479 vs $599, and MS has far more wiggle room to drop the hammer whenever they want to and knock $100 off all three 360 models across the board. Such a price cut, putting the Core at $199, the Premium at $299, and the Elite at $379, will prompt a radical change in those launch-aligned sales charts.



deadhorse said:
The Wii is inching towards the 360 every week. I wonder if it will reach it before Halo 3 comes out. It should get a big boost with the release of Metroid Prime 3. I think the 360 will go past it after GTAIV and Halo 3 are both out. I'd say they'll be about the same after the end of the Holidays.

If Nintendo doesn't catch up with demand before Metriod comes out, Metroid won't help sales of hardware simply because there will be no hardware to sell.

I'm having trouble determining if it reached 10 million faster or slower than the original Xbox, although it's pretty obvious that it is close.



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>>Surely the Wii has the better momentum - now. But I dont know, what happens if Halo will be released and in the holidays. Could be enough to be first at 15 mil.



souixan said:
deadhorse said:
(talk about Wii vs 360 predictions, Halo 3, etc)
I don't agree with that predicition. I know Halo will move units, but not as many as people seem to think. Much of the Halo crowd already owns a 360 thanks to games like Gears of War, Crackdown and the Halo 3 Beta. I know it'll move units ofc ourse there's some waiting out, but I don't think it'll be a gigantic move. Metroid sadly might just reboost the clammor for a Wii, it won't move extra systems just yet, simply because it's not possible to do so! And for GTAIV I have a feeling it'll move more PS3's then 360's

 


 I think Nintendo's got a large stockpile of Wii units that they're saving for two events.

 1: Holiday season '07 (but of course).

 2: Metroid Prime 3: Corruption.

I'll bet you Nintendo's going to ship a larger percentage of their consoles specially for the launch of MP3 so people can purchase the both. I mean, seriously. A game that SHOULD move consoles is therefore being held back if it DOESN'T. MP3 is capable of selling out thousands upon thousands of Wii systems, but only if those Wii units are available.

 Let me illustrate. Say there are 9m Wii systems sold by MP3 launch, with zero systems available. MP3 sells 2m in the first two months (kids that were FP2/Metroid fans + Wii owners already). Wii sales continue at the usual rate, MP3 fails to move consoles, game slips between the cracks, fails to reach true potential. After generation's end, game sells ~3.5m total.

Okay, so now let's say there are still 9m Wii systems already sold by MP3 launch, but Nintendo ships an extra 1m consoles during that game's release window. Now, MP3 moves a million consoles + sells the 2m it would've without having systems available. The game earns far more attention, and it continues moving consoles well into the holiday season. Sells well into '08, when Nintendo announces "Player's Choice" games for Wii, effectively dropping the price of said games (like MP3) to $20-$25. Game sells ~9m total.

 These numbers are in no way expectations, or predictions, or educated guesses, so don't go all, "OMG WTF UR DUM D00D WTF DO u MEEN DOZ NUMBRZ SUK."

 It's merely illustration. Point is: MP3 will be far more effective as a game if Nintendo strategizes and allows for it to move consoles. Plus, if the game plays anything like it looks like it will, it only deserves that much.



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Darc Requiem said:
ckmlb said:
360 will not crack 15 million this year, more like 13 million ish.

13 million? You are kidding right, do you remember the number of units MS sold in November and December of last year? That was at the $400 price point. This year they more and likely be at a $300 price point for the premium 360. I'm not as bullish on 360 sales as MrStickBall but the 360 should easily reach 15 million units for the year.


 I seriously doubt the Xbox 360 premium system will cost $299 at holidays this year......



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thetonestarr said:

I think Nintendo's got a large stockpile of Wii units that they're saving for two events.

1: Holiday season '07 (but of course).

2: Metroid Prime 3: Corruption.

I'll bet you Nintendo's going to ship a larger percentage of their consoles specially for the launch of MP3 so people can purchase the both. I mean, seriously. A game that SHOULD move consoles is therefore being held back if it DOESN'T. MP3 is capable of selling out thousands upon thousands of Wii systems, but only if those Wii units are available.

Let me illustrate. Say there are 9m Wii systems sold by MP3 launch, with zero systems available. MP3 sells 2m in the first two months (kids that were FP2/Metroid fans + Wii owners already). Wii sales continue at the usual rate, MP3 fails to move consoles, game slips between the cracks, fails to reach true potential. After generation's end, game sells ~3.5m total.

Okay, so now let's say there are still 9m Wii systems already sold by MP3 launch, but Nintendo ships an extra 1m consoles during that game's release window. Now, MP3 moves a million consoles + sells the 2m it would've without having systems available. The game earns far more attention, and it continues moving consoles well into the holiday season. Sells well into '08, when Nintendo announces "Player's Choice" games for Wii, effectively dropping the price of said games (like MP3) to $20-$25. Game sells ~9m total.

These numbers are in no way expectations, or predictions, or educated guesses, so don't go all, "OMG WTF UR DUM D00D WTF DO u MEEN DOZ NUMBRZ SUK."

It's merely illustration. Point is: MP3 will be far more effective as a game if Nintendo strategizes and allows for it to move consoles. Plus, if the game plays anything like it looks like it will, it only deserves that much.


I've read a lot of these "stockpiling" suggestions, and I don't see the point. Why save and sell tomorrow something that you could sell today? Wii's are not sitting on the shelves. Demand is still greater than supply, and by all indications will continue that way through the Christmas season and into 2008. There is no reason to save consoles for MP3's release or for Christmas 2007. Nintendo doesn't 'need' a product or an event to stimulate sales. What Nintendo needs is more Wiis on trucks going to stores to satisfy demand at the $249 price point before Microsoft drops the 360 Core price to $199.

What would be the point in manufacturing something to ship to a warehouse and put in storage (at considerable expense) when you could sell it today? What if (unfathomably, I know) consumer backlash caused Wii demand to inexplicably collapse?

In fact, not selling consoles right now would not only cost Nintendo money in warehousing expense, but it would cost them huge amounts of profit in lost game sales. If Nintendo weren't selling consoles and holding them for October - December 2007, customers who finally get one then will be less inclined to buy Excitetruck, WarioWare, Twilight Princess, Mario Party 8, and a whole bunch of other Nintendo titles, either at full price or any other price. Certainly, by then, few if any of these titles will still be $49.99, plus there will be far more third party competition on the shelves competing for buyers' Wii-spending dollars. Those are lost software sales for Nintendo. That's six months or more that people haven't been buying the console, so therefore haven't been buying games, peripherals, accessories, Wii points cards, or even an issue of Nintendo Power.

There is no benefit or business sense in building a product to not sell it.

BTW, your numbers don't work, because in one scenario you say 9M, then in the other you suggest 9M + 1M that were withheld. If they weren't withheld, then your first scenario should have began with 10M.