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sc94597 said:
EHSTEVE said:
kuraobi said:
I was actually expecting a huge drop so I'm really not surprised at all. That's what happens when you release a game which is exclusive, dedicated to the fans, from a huge franchise and extremely hyped on a console selling really poorly in the most hardcore gaming country. Most of japanese PS3 owners are Final Fantasy fans, and then there are those MGS fans. That's it.
This game combines almost all the possible factors for a huge drop.

I don't think Japan is much of a hardcore gaming country anymore

 

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=3210

 

 

 Look at the top selling games so far this year in japan http://www.vgchartz.com/japyearly.php Now that list seems to have more hardcore games than casual games.

What the...? Mario Kart DS is still selling?

 



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PS3 week two sales will have dropped slightly. I expect a rise in Europe. Remember there was a strike in Spain and mainland Europe. Europe/others will be around 120k. NA PS3 weekly sales will be around 100k. Japan will be around 50k.



EHSTEVE said:
sc94597 said:
EHSTEVE said:
kuraobi said:
I was actually expecting a huge drop so I'm really not surprised at all. That's what happens when you release a game which is exclusive, dedicated to the fans, from a huge franchise and extremely hyped on a console selling really poorly in the most hardcore gaming country. Most of japanese PS3 owners are Final Fantasy fans, and then there are those MGS fans. That's it.
This game combines almost all the possible factors for a huge drop.

I don't think Japan is much of a hardcore gaming country anymore

 

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=3210

 

 

 Look at the top selling games so far this year in japan http://www.vgchartz.com/japyearly.php Now that list seems to have more hardcore games than casual games.

What the...? Mario Kart DS is still selling?

 

Why wouldn't it? It's a excellent game.

 



With the preview in and the numbers from ChartTrack last week; this week I think both SW and HW will drop at a pretty good rate WW. Of course this is what most people were thinking anways.



How can it have the biggest drop if it wasn't the biggest 1st week seller? Anyway, of course it will drop, but nothing like those Japan numbers we saw, there are many more people with ps3 in america and europe than them



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Hopefully it will sell 600,000 this week overall....giving it just over a 50% dropoff for the week overall



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I think the drop will take longer in other regions, where the PS3 is more popular, but I do think it will happen within a month, just like it did on the other HD consoles.

The reason for this has less to do with a shift in game quality and more with a pecularity of the fanbases of the HD consoles this generation: a tendency to view their consoles as investments. They buy their consoles based not on what is out, but on what is coming. Halo 3, GTA4, MGS4, and FFXIII were the most commonly cited examples early in the lifetimes of these consoles. They didn't wait for these games to come out before buying the consoles: they bought them right away, and bided their time with 'filler' games with similar content (of which there were many). As a result, while these games may have sold millions of consoles between them, they sold most of them long before the games themselves were released. And so there's a spike followed by a crash, and -perhaps most importantly- no permanent increase in sales. People didn't wait, which was good for early console growth but has completely changed the idea of a 'system-seller' as we know it. In effect, the early blockbusters become vital to the growth of the system, but cannot have a measurable effect on system sales: because the sales come before the game's release, there's no way to trace them back to the game.

Even more curious than this new "investment" behavior, however, is the fact that the Wii hasn't been affected by it. Even among people who invested in HD consoles, the common behavior pattern with the Wii is still to wait until specific games have been released (MP3, SMG, and Brawl being commonly cited examples). The result of this is that the traditional 'system-seller' paradigm still works with the Wii: sales tend to go up and stay up, at least to some degree, as the big games get released.

The whole thing raises many questions. Why are the PS3 and 360 seen as investments now? Why isn't the Wii getting the same treatment from gamers? Why is it happenning now, as opposed to sooner or later (or, for that matter, ever)? How will these behavior patterns affect future sales, and future game development, on these platforms and the design philosophies behind them?



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@ all: Remember that all hardware figures on this page(japan preview) are "guesses", based on previous week sales & titles out this week (Source - please correct me if this is wrong).

MGS4 drop is unbelievable - as in, I'm not sure I believe it. Its possible that with a significantly smaller install base, the drop-off would be faster than previous titles - but this is huge. Maybe it just is sold out, it would explain a lot.
(I was expecting closer to 100k :P).

Reasonable start for Mario Stadium, and excellent sales for Super Robot Wars - both titles managed to double their day#1 sales over the week.

And as usual, I expect more Wii titles to actually make the top#20 - their were 7 last week (in the top#20), I'd expect 4-5 this week.

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No. I doubt over all that the decline will be that great.



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