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sc94597 on 20 June 2008
Pristine20 said:
Fernando said:

You have to remember that Nintendo was a graphical powerful company. The only reason why Nintendo doesn't have a Wii with powerful specs. is because they didn't want to, not because they can't.

And you have to remember that Sony was not always a graphical powerful company. Both the N64 and Gamecube were a lot better in terms of hardware specs. and graphics than the PS1 and PS2.

This is the first generation that Nintendo makes an underpowered machine.

This is also the first generation of the three you mentioned that nintendo is ahead again so if they release the wii HD with specs matching the 360 and PS3, both the 360 and PS3 would be a lot cheaper and they would have a lot of catching up to do. Xbox 720 would probably also release shortly after the wii HD but PS4 would be a long time coming. The next generation of consoles are really going to be staggered.

I'm actually worried about PS4 now that Krazy Ken's gone because he developed all the PS consoles/handheld

 

Um sorry, but the wii is winning because it's underpowered? Don't say because it's cheap because at launch the gamecube was $300 and after 2 years it was at $100. I highly doubt nintendo will make a "Weak" console next gen.

 



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Viper1 on 21 June 2008
Mummelmann said:
No, this rig did not cost 20.000$ and I never said so. Read again, this was an insane computer (the story is 8-9 months old as well, the newest cards were not available in SLI) with GPU's worth over 1800$ (at the time) but it was not even close to doing the job. Most PC geeks and hardware experts agree that there is no hardware, regardless of price, available commercially that will run Crysis absolutely maxed out. Crossfire 4870 won't help much since it is not the overall tech req's that are hogging the resources, it is the programming/optimization and this is (again) the basis of the entire situation and my whole point.
Crytek are sloppy at optimizing (like Rockstar are poor at overall programming) and that is why this game is causing such a headache. UT3 easily looks as good as Crysis but requires only a fraction of the omph to run perfectly because (yet again) the programming and optimization is miles better than on Crysis.

You're forgetting something regarding the HD4870X2 I think.   Unlike SLI and Crossfire, it will scale ~100% regardless of the game.  Comebine that with an actual set of HD4870X2's in CF and you have a beast.  With the proper motherboard and chipset you could een go so far as to quad crossfire HD4870X2's.

Sure that's exepnsive (certainly not $20k expensive) and the crossfire scaling won't be of the greatest benefit but each card is ~100% scaled between the two cores.   If scaling is the biggest hurdle in maxing out Crysis, you have to admit this is as feasible an opportunity to clear that hurdle that we'll have.

They launch in about a month with a speculated price tag of $450.00.  Yeah, expensive but the same price as individual 8800 Ultras and certainly more powerful.



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DTG on 21 June 2008

Crysis level graphics would be unacceptable. I expect photorealism next generation.



Mummelmann on 21 June 2008

I know the HD4870 will be a beast, I have one on pre-order...
2 GB's more RAM and I'm set for another 2 years!



JaggedSac on 21 June 2008

$450 just for a graphics card. Man that is fucked up.



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Slimebeast on 21 June 2008
Mummelmann said:

Crytek are sloppy at optimizing (like Rockstar are poor at overall programming) and that is why this game is causing such a headache. UT3 easily looks as good as Crysis but requires only a fraction of the omph to run perfectly because (yet again) the programming and optimization is miles better than on Crysis.

 

 Maybe Im reading you out of context now, but are you kidding?

If not, can u elaborate on your reasoning with that statement.



Viper1 on 21 June 2008
Mummelmann said:
I know the HD4870 will be a beast, I have one on pre-order...
2 GB's more RAM and I'm set for another 2 years!

I mean the HD4870X2.  It's a dual core card but unlike dual core CPU's both cores will equally share the work load.  ATi's previous generatio of X2 cards worked more like crossfire itself and used an internal crossfire bridge.  The HD4870X2's are using a new communications method. 

 

The HD4870X2 will easily outperform 2 HD4870's in CrossFire and cost less doing it.   Now again, imagine putting those HD4870X2's in Crossfire mode themselves?  Up to 4 of them.   Obviosuly not for the average high end gamer but in terms of simply pushing things to the limits, that would do it.

 

Hey Jagged, nVidia's new high end card is $650.00.   When the 8800 Ultra's launched they easily sold for $800.00.   ATi has actually managed to lower the price bar and still keep performance.

 



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Slimebeast on 21 June 2008
Viper1 said:
Mummelmann said:
I know the HD4870 will be a beast, I have one on pre-order...
2 GB's more RAM and I'm set for another 2 years!

I mean the HD4870X2.  It's a dual core card but unlike dual core CPU's both cores will equally share the work load.  ATi's previous generatio of X2 cards worked more like crossfire itself and used an internal crossfire bridge.  The HD4870X2's are using a new communications method. 

The HD4870X2 will easily outperform 2 HD4870's in CrossFire and cost less doing it.    

Isn't that still just rumors and speculation? About the X2 having shared memory and so on.

 



Viper1 on 21 June 2008

It's one of those rumors that are more like a very poorly kept secret.

Considering it's one of their big deals regarding the X2's and they've been talking about a new communication method for a while that isn't like Crossfire and allows for near perfect scaling...even if it's not a shared memory, they have "something in the cards ".



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Squilliam on 21 June 2008

I would pick that a single 4870x2 could run Crysis at 1920/1080 on very high with AA.

Remember ATI has very efficient AA now that their shader power has caught up.

Btw, whats this obsession with 1080p@60 when even a PS3 cant do 720p on GTAIV. Its a completely different class.

The 4870 has more floating point performance than the Xbox360 and PS3 combined. Talk smack less please? It also has more transistors and an extremely parelel architecture.

Cost $329 for more performance than a 360 and PS3, I think thats pretty good value.



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